On Nov 12, 9:08 am, Joan Sutherland wrote: > Please propose Phil, how you – if you were in power -would legislate changes > to your nation’s economy and environnmental policies to create the changes * > you* want to see, without creating a dictatorship. > joan
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Joan,
Well… OK, but if I were in power and could write my own legislation without anyone understanding quite why… wouldn’t I then BE a dictator?
I think the question has to be, how would a new way of thinking about the problem become of enough interest to people for them to see the importance of understanding how to make it work, a kind of different question. Continue reading What if I were in power, what would I change?→
Re: Annie Leonard’s brilliant work in the “The Story of Stuff“, and the hiding places where nature puts some of the missing stuff.
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Annie, Hi, great work, I’ve always admired it. I’m a natural systems scientist, and… there’s a whole LOT of “missing stuff”. Closely studying the mystery of how nature organizes things into “whole systems” has a secret power, that any one part can lead you to… layer upon layer of the missing stuff. We should have a lot to talk about, but catching your attention is a difficulty these days.
Unseen universes abound, at all scales and energies, lives known only by feint traces, the true reality beyond our words
Most people assume that once they’ve found one answer to a question, that’s it, and there’s nothing else to look for. But oh no, that’s usually the beginning not the end. Like, people see 1 thing wrong with money and think fixing that fixes every thing that is wrong with money. Nope, you have to look at things from ALL sides to find ALL the gaping holes. Just patching up the first thing that comes into sight isn’t enough. After a stumble you may tie your scarf and in a hurry “look smart”, but not notice you’ve been sitting in mud! Continue reading The story of the Missing Stuff→
> And I would add to Joan’s request: people respond to resource
> depletion by advocating frugalizing responses in part because
> it makes sense of a personal level, and because they don’t
> know what else to do.
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> So given Jevons Paradox, what does a person or a small
> community do instead? Escalate their use instead? Some have
> suggested that, sort of tongue in cheek, but sort of seriously…
> but it is ethically repugnant at the same time, nah?
Vera,
Well, it’s truly a conundrum, especially given the odd consumption logic of the greens that says what you buy matters more than how much you spend. The “reality math” tells more or less the exact opposite story. Continue reading How DO we reduce our economic footprint?→
New systems science, how to care for natural uncontrolled systems in context
