{"id":978,"date":"2009-04-26T00:00:03","date_gmt":"2009-04-26T04:00:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.synapse9.com\/signals\/?p=978"},"modified":"2009-04-26T00:00:03","modified_gmt":"2009-04-26T04:00:03","slug":"the-tyrany-of-natural-law","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/the-tyrany-of-natural-law\/","title":{"rendered":"The \u201ctyrany\u201d of natural law."},"content":{"rendered":"
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Responding to: 4\/26\/09 “Again, I find myself agreeing with you.”
\nBB<\/p>\n

Brian,
\nYou started this thread by saying you thought long term forces such as \u201cnatural cycles\u201d would \u00a0overwhelm any local developmental processes.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What I had said was fairly directly that all long term forces were the accumulation of local developmental processes.<\/p>\n

There actually seems to be excellent evidence of that, as good as the evidence for evolution.\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0True, I can\u2019t get it published because the tyranny of \u201cnatural law\u201d as a philosophy of science is only frayed at the edges rather than torn in the middle, but I can lead anyone to enough of it to make it quite hard to erase.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s certainly made hard to speak clearly about these things,<\/p>\n

that our \u201ccultural wisdom\u201d is
\n\u201cso much more pothole than road\u201d on the subject.<\/h3>\n

Each individual person needs to decide what to believe for themselves, and I\u2019ve been talking about this as a rather deep flaw in what we are taught, and that most people accept without question.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 There\u2019s a more basic question than WHAT laws apply to nature though. \u00a0That\u2019s whether laws DO apply to nature.<\/p>\n

What the evidence that long term processes come from accumulations of local developments shows rather well is the other possibility.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The laws we perceive are more accurately described as being made in our imaginations from the patterns we incompletely understand in nature.<\/p>\n

So the \u201csuper pot hole\u201d of human thinking is believing nature is:<\/p>\n

making her choices based on what is buzzing around in our heads\u2026 rather than the reverse!<\/h3>\n

What I find most cool about that is that the fix is easy to define, though somewhat easier said than done.\u00a0\u00a0 That fix is just for us to turn our \u201canswers\u201d in to questions, and for that to be what reattaches our thoughts to reality.<\/p>\n

For example, let\u2019s say our economy seems to be in trouble because of having run out of cheap energy.\u00a0 Turning that into a question asks \u201cis that the problem\u201d.<\/p>\n

If we had limitless cheap energy, and found \u201cperpetual motion machines\u201d of a practical sort, would that finally be the thing to make \u201cperpetual explosion machines\u201d like our economy possible to stabilize?\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0There I\u2019m assuming the assumed problem is solved, and asking if it would work.<\/p>\n

My idea is that if people stopped treating our minds as \u201ccontaining the laws\u201d of nature, but instead as \u201clooking for the patterns\u201d of nature, we\u2019d stop falling into quite so many of her potholes.\u00a0\u00a0 We\u2019d then \u201chave it both ways\u201d, keep our laws of nature and see what else she might be doing as well.<\/p>\n

pfh<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Responding to: 4\/26\/09 “Again, I find myself agreeing with you.” BB Brian, You started this thread by saying you thought long term forces such as \u201cnatural cycles\u201d would \u00a0overwhelm any local developmental processes.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What I had said was fairly directly that all long term forces were the accumulation of local developmental processes. There actually seems … Continue reading The \u201ctyrany\u201d of natural law.<\/span> →<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crdt_document":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[7,8],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-978","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-econn","category-theory"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/978","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=978"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/978\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=978"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=978"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=978"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}