{"id":772,"date":"2006-09-16T00:00:57","date_gmt":"2006-09-16T04:00:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.synapse9.com\/signals\/?p=772"},"modified":"2006-09-16T00:00:57","modified_gmt":"2006-09-16T04:00:57","slug":"better-examples-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/better-examples-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Better examples 2?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Bruce,\u00a0Great extra questions!<\/p>\n<p>&gt; Phil,<br \/>\n&gt; Concerning growth systems that killed themselves, why<br \/>\n&gt; not just look at a few major corporations (which are in<br \/>\n&gt; essence, growth systems) and see what happened to them?<br \/>\n&gt; Anyone remember Montgomery Ward? Where are they now?<\/p>\n<p>Like most classic American businesses it grew quite large and then<br \/>\nstabilized, became a \u2018cash cow\u2019 for feeding investments in other things,<br \/>\nand by the time it\u2019s owners recognized the shape of threatening new<br \/>\ncompetition it was too stuck in old habits and couldn\u2019t adapt. It had<br \/>\nto be broken up for parts.<\/p>\n<p><em>&gt; How about General Motors (\u201dWhat\u2019s good for General<\/em><br \/>\n<em>&gt; Motors is good for the USA\u201d)? How are they doing now?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>GM is a more modern company. My sense is that it\u2019s been remaking itself<br \/>\nabout every 20 years, more or less successfully. Modern businesses try<br \/>\nto encourage new ventures within their own organizations, trying to<br \/>\nremain \u2018forever young\u2019. That\u2019s very hard to do when whole industries<br \/>\ncome and go ever more rapidly with continuously multiplying amounts of<br \/>\nmoney feeding into investments to replace everything doing the<br \/>\nproduction\u2026 (That\u2019s one of the weirdest one\u2019s to me! You wouldn\u2019t<br \/>\nwant to stop change, but it\u2019s worse to endlessly accelerate it.)<\/p>\n<p>&gt; Let\u2019s go back further to the East India Company or the<br \/>\n&gt; Hudson Bay Company. What\u2019s happened to them?<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m sure there are great books on each. It\u2019s always a compelling story<br \/>\nof visionary people doing great things that turn out not to be so useful<br \/>\nanymore down the road. Time passes them bye.<\/p>\n<p>&gt; Look at Ford, IBM, or a host of other companies that<br \/>\n&gt; made up the Dow Jones industrials just 50 years ago. Most of<br \/>\n&gt; them are gone or in deep trouble.<\/p>\n<p>There are a number of the giants companies that are struggling, and a<br \/>\nnumber that are adapting to become more versatile and creative.<\/p>\n<p>&gt; Or, perhaps look at dynasties the once ruled the earth<br \/>\n&gt; (or some significant portion of it): Persia, Rome, Greece,<br \/>\n&gt; Egypt, Babylonia, the Norse Vikings, the Ottoman Empire,<br \/>\n&gt; Spain, England, China (which is the only one on the ascent<br \/>\n&gt; again at this point), etc. They all had their day in the sun,<br \/>\n&gt; and where are they now?<\/p>\n<p>Come and gone\u2026 It certainly is curious why each of these long stable<br \/>\nways of living seemed to loose interest and vanish. Good modern<br \/>\nexamples of this that are just a little more dramatic, but the same<br \/>\nthing I think, are the sudden collapse of the Soviet Union and the<br \/>\nsudden collapse of the NYC crimewave. In both cases it strongly appears<br \/>\nthat the social cultures turned off to their former way of life and let<br \/>\nit just fall to pieces.<\/p>\n<p>&gt; Will any of those suffice for your purposes? If not,<br \/>\n&gt; let\u2019s all try again.<\/p>\n<p>Well, actually, you picked wonderful examples, but not a one that had to<br \/>\ndo with failure caused by uncontrolled growth (from growing competition,<br \/>\nyes, but not from its own growth). A couple from history would include<br \/>\nthe Biblical reference to a Tower of Babel and multiplying languages and<br \/>\nthe California gold rush disasters.<\/p>\n<p>Phil<\/p>\n<p>&gt; Bruce Barnbaum<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bruce,\u00a0Great extra questions! &gt; Phil, &gt; Concerning growth systems that killed themselves, why &gt; not just look at a few major corporations (which are in &gt; essence, growth systems) and see what happened to them? &gt; Anyone remember Montgomery Ward? Where are they now? Like most classic American businesses it grew quite large and then &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/better-examples-2\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Better examples 2?<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crdt_document":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-772","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-mail"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/772","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=772"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/772\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=772"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=772"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=772"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}