{"id":764,"date":"2006-09-16T00:00:28","date_gmt":"2006-09-16T04:00:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.synapse9.com\/signals\/?p=764"},"modified":"2006-09-16T00:00:28","modified_gmt":"2006-09-16T04:00:28","slug":"good-ideas-so-far-more-still-needed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/good-ideas-so-far-more-still-needed\/","title":{"rendered":"Good ideas, so far, more still needed . . ."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Eric &amp; all,<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>&gt;Stan said:<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;Frank said:<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;I agree wholeheartedly that there are way too many people on this<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;planet using way too many resources. As far as what to do<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;about it, I think we should do nothing.<br \/>\n&gt; In my opinion this should include doing nothing to help<br \/>\n&gt; people live longer. Use medicine to alleviate pain, but not<br \/>\n&gt; to prevent dying.<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t have time tonight, but I think this is a very important part of<br \/>\nthe puzzle. How to do what we can and know how to feel about the<br \/>\ntragedies we\u2019re unable prevent. The outside interventions in other<br \/>\npeople\u2019s societies that have been failing us for a long time, sometimes<br \/>\njust multiplying the tragedy to come, need to be stopped by a<br \/>\ncombination of being reinvented, and the wisdom of accepting the things<br \/>\nwe can\u2019t change.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Sometimes the problem with aid programs has been interpreted as making<br \/>\npeople aid dependent, standing in line waiting for hand-outs, rather<br \/>\nthan assisting them in becoming independent. It\u2019s been one of the big<br \/>\nissues for the neocon radicals, used to attack government aid of all<br \/>\nkinds. In the Times today there were two stories on it. Front page a<br \/>\nstory about how the Palestinian community has become totally aid<br \/>\ndependent and suffering now that their government is out of favor. Then<br \/>\non the front of the Business Section Paul Wolfowitz, the neocon chairman<br \/>\nof the World Bank, was in the news for holding up dozens of agreements<br \/>\ndue to poor protections against corruption. He gave it to seem that<br \/>\nlots of nations are demanding their handouts and perhaps not willing to<br \/>\nprovide sufficient safeguards, others thought he was just being mean.<\/p>\n<p>It reminds me of the special anger the neocons reserved for Bill Clinton<br \/>\nfor taking their idea of reforming welfare, redesigning it as a ladder<br \/>\nfor people to climb on rather than a trap to get caught it, and taking<br \/>\nthe \u2018wrath of God\u2019 purpose the neocons really wanted away from it. He<br \/>\ngot it enacted as an act of more intelligent generosity instead. Boy<br \/>\nthey hated him for that\u2026.<\/p>\n<p>So, just curing disease and feeding the starving children, the charity<br \/>\nbutton, is the wrong motive because it often just multiplies the<br \/>\nproblem. There\u2019s got to be a right motive for allowing some<br \/>\npreventable tragedies happen, other than the temptation many people are<br \/>\ndrawn to, that helping other people is a kind of robbery and any tragedy<br \/>\nis just punishment for people being undeserving.<\/p>\n<p>Phil<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Eric &amp; all, &gt;Stan said: &gt; &gt;Frank said: &gt; &gt;I agree wholeheartedly that there are way too many people on this &gt; &gt;planet using way too many resources. As far as what to do &gt; &gt;about it, I think we should do nothing. &gt; In my opinion this should include doing nothing to help &gt; &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/good-ideas-so-far-more-still-needed\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Good ideas, so far, more still needed . . .<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crdt_document":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-764","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-mail"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/764","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=764"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/764\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=764"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=764"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=764"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}