{"id":2159,"date":"2013-02-08T17:46:46","date_gmt":"2013-02-08T21:46:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.synapse9.com\/signals\/?p=2159"},"modified":"2013-09-11T09:45:56","modified_gmt":"2013-09-11T14:45:56","slug":"thinking-a-natural-world-into-being","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/thinking-a-natural-world-into-being\/","title":{"rendered":"Thinking a natural world Into Being"},"content":{"rendered":"

A group email on how to connect the mind’s concept language with nature’s process language, earning one “KaShu!” from Alanna.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n

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To get things to connect it really does help to first see how they are disconnected.\u00a0\u00a0 People put no particular value on where their money comes from or goes to, for example.\u00a0 As that is a major pathway for our own accumulative effects on our world, nature cares about that a great deal!\u00a0\u00a0 People also quite ignore small % changes over time, even though they naturally result in exceeding large scales, complexities and rates of change, inevitably pushing the limits of stability for whatever physical system is doing it. \u00a0 People just tend to see no association between accumulative causes and their dramatic effects, though. \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0I indicates \u201csomething funny going on\u201d.<\/p>\n

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So to get a reliable grasp on how different a conceptual world is from the natural world, you need personal examples of where you notice \u201csomething really missing\u201d \u00a0to go back to it again and again to reground your own thinking on the disconnect between thought and nature.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What I go to are times and places when I could observe growth producing lasting change, making it obvious it\u2019s not in my head but happening where I\u2019m seeing it happen. \u00a0\u00a0There are any number of different kinds of \u201cpregnancies\u201d where bursts of growth large and small develop in isolation.<\/p>\n

Even just waiting for a sneeze and feeling it emerge by its initially slow and then explosive cascade of tingly sensation, has that clear signature of an complex event happening by itself.\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0Those are the classic bursts of self-organization and energy release, on any scale, that produce systemic change.\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0You can tell they\u2019re not happening conceptually, because you don\u2019t think them into being, and have no idea what they mean to you till you discover that later.<\/span><\/p>\n

When you can think things into being, they\u2019re probably in your head\u2026\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Recognizing those two modes of causation, and how they occur independent of one another \u00a0takes practice, like anything else.\u00a0\u00a0 Fortunately it\u2019s only as you become rather confident of what the difference is that it\u2019ll make much sense to worry about the similar natural processes that give us bursts of thought, but give us the impression we live in a conceptual rather than a natural world.<\/p>\n

To keep it short enough to read, does the above address what you were asking about?\u00a0\u00a0 You like Bonnitta Roy\u2019s work, and it\u2019s obviously well thought out. \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0I\u2019ve misunderstood unfamiliar logics before, but I don\u2019t understand what she\u2019s doing really.\u00a0\u00a0 It doesn\u2019t seem she\u2019s trying to connect her thinking with the observable processes of nature, but creating another ideal.<\/p>\n

There\u2019s a big difference between the meanings of words when used for discussing natural processes and for discussing human values or concepts.\u00a0 The words for one refer to independently existing things, which are then self-defining in their meanings, like the word \u201cthis\u201d used to refer to something you are wearing.\u00a0 The words you use for concepts are defined both by the user and by the listener, independently, and reflect the (ever changeable) concepts in their heads.\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0;-)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

A group email on how to connect the mind’s concept language with nature’s process language, earning one “KaShu!” from Alanna.   To get things to connect it really does help to first see how they are disconnected.\u00a0\u00a0 People put no particular value on where their money comes from or goes to, for example.\u00a0 As that … Continue reading Thinking a natural world Into Being<\/span> →<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crdt_document":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[3,4,6,8,10,15,16],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2159","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-among-best-2","category-teaching","category-mail","category-theory","category-pop","category-trans","category-whattodo"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2159","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2159"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2159\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2421,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2159\/revisions\/2421"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2159"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2159"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2159"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}