{"id":1307,"date":"2010-11-16T00:00:35","date_gmt":"2010-11-16T04:00:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.synapse9.com\/signals\/?p=1307"},"modified":"2010-11-16T00:00:35","modified_gmt":"2010-11-16T04:00:35","slug":"what-exactly-is-the-wealth-divide-ii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/what-exactly-is-the-wealth-divide-ii\/","title":{"rendered":"What exactly is the wealth divide II"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Robin Smith posted\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/gco2e.blogspot.com\/2010\/09\/where-are-my-wages-going-mr-osbourne.html\">Where Are My Wages Going<\/a> on his blog and\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/thefinancelab.ning.com\/profiles\/blogs\/what-exactly-is-the-wealth\">What Exactly is the Wealth Divide<\/a> on the Finance Lab. <\/em><em>He offers the following simple image and statement, worth considering and\u00a0questioning.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>He says: There is no mystery as to the root cause of poverty. Both the Private State and the Welfare State are robbing us. And giving it all away to landowners and banks.<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/_mzzqZcRIvFQ\/TNJKADGWmII\/AAAAAAAAAt0\/ON2FyXaloJk\/s1600\/where_are_my_wages_going.JPG\" alt=\"Robin Smiths graph of \" width=\"400\" \/><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Robin,<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019d be interested in what else you\u2019ve done. I think the valid point you\u2019re making is that there is indeed a long term systemic trend of more and more future income being paid to people who saved past income. I\u2019ve made what I think are definitive models of why that arises, and what to do about it since the early 80\u2019s.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s when my family friend Ken Boulding pointed out to me how Keynes had found basically the same problem and necessary correction for it I had. I\u2019ve continued working on it and the reasons people find it hard to understand, as very simple as it is, really.<\/p>\n<p>The economy operates in a physical world, that\u2019s the problem. In nature energy accounts always balance, invariably. Our economic accounting practice is for energy use credits to endlessly multiply. So\u2026. the systems people set up for that work only temporarily, but then become distorted and fail because we don\u2019t yet know how to recognize the source and corrections of strain in environmental systems.<\/p>\n<p>The way to balance the system includes having people who earn credit for retaining credit from the past be given permission to use those earnings to further add to their credit only when it doesn\u2019t strain the whole environment. That returns our free market financial economy to a circular accounting model, like nature\u2019s systems. As strains to produce more are kept within levels of comfort, investor earnings are kept high by no longer adding to investment earnings to their credit, and so in total, taking out only as much credit for energy use as they put back in.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s it in a nutshell. For my writings on it you might site search [<a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/search?sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=site:www.synapse9.com+keynes\">site:www.synapse9.com keynes<\/a>] which will grab the various things people have shown more interest in.<\/p>\n<p>The core dilemma, and why it\u2019s hard for people to discuss, is that understanding it requires discussing the organization of living systems, and science didn\u2019t develop a language for that yet. Science still tries to represent living systems with equations, i.e. as controlled relations between numerical variables. Economies,and lots of other things, are organizations of actively learning parts, however. Representing them with formulas, as following rules other than their own processes of learning and discovery creates a LOT of misinformation about them\u2026 you could say.<\/p>\n<p>pfh<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Robin Smith posted\u00a0Where Are My Wages Going on his blog and\u00a0What Exactly is the Wealth Divide on the Finance Lab. He offers the following simple image and statement, worth considering and\u00a0questioning. He says: There is no mystery as to the root cause of poverty. Both the Private State and the Welfare State are robbing us. &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/what-exactly-is-the-wealth-divide-ii\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">What exactly is the wealth divide II<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crdt_document":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1307","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-mail"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1307","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1307"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1307\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1307"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1307"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/synapse9.com\/signals\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1307"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}