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some related series of tweets
grouped by color -- some important
systems principles highlighted
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838 |
@InvasiveNotes Oh, why all
information is faulty is it's abstracted, from complex relationships in
complex environments stripped away. |
22 Dec 2011 |
|
837 |
Lnkd.in/iW_PcM I added the following as a comment to the
original article from Forcasting.Net "Predicting the Global Economic... |
22 Dec 2011 11AM |
|
836 |
Now, then... why is it that the world expert community
consensus is that we can reduce our footprint on the earth by expanding more
rapidly? |
22 Dec 2011 9AM |
|
835 |
If God isn't what makes it *so visibly clear* only
multiplying is profoundly *not fruitful*, then he's just another of our
self-deceptions. |
22 Dec 2011 9AM |
|
834 |
If God isn't within the resolution of new beginnings by
harmonizing with what they touch, he's really missing out on something. |
22 Dec 2011 9AM |
|
833 |
If God isn't within the bursts of new relationships
that begin all the large and small storms of live, he's missing out on
something. |
22 Dec 2011 9AM |
|
832 |
Why look for it in our words instead of in life's
things. Why not look more deeply into what it is in life that inspires them? |
22 Dec 2011 9AM |
|
831 |
Why not look for it in the immediacy of life itself,
not the retelling of theory and fable we invent, but in the very brilliance
of reality? |
22 Dec 2011 9AM |
|
830 |
Why not look for the pulse of the universe in the
bursts of innovation that begin any event, visibly what makes life and time
so "lively". |
22 Dec 2011 9AM |
|
829 |
Why, though? Don't all people deeply desire to put
their finger on the pulse of the universe? |
21 Dec 2011 |
|
828 |
Maybe it's that human culture has no connections at all
with the living world it's part of... I do feel like
such an alien bringing it up. |
21 Dec 2011 |
|
827 |
It turns science into both an actual and metaphorical
treasure hunt, for hints on where to look for the secrets of our living
world! |
21 Dec 2011 |
|
826 |
An ideal place to look for missing information, on how
nature "connects the dots", is studying the growth of new
environmental systems. |
21 Dec 2011 |
|
825 |
Searching for information you're missing is a task of
discovering how nature "connects the dots", not how one's own
social values would. |
21 Dec 2011 |
|
824 |
Is it better to search for information you're missing,
or a theory to make sense of information you have? The latter is surely
easier! |
21 Dec 2011 |
|
823 |
Lnkd.in/6ZGmrg
Missing from world concern for the food crisis is our growing food/fuel
demand, with no regulatory or supply solution. |
21 Dec 2011 |
|
822 |
Spreading our most important social values will never
be heard by nature, *unless* we assign value to understanding her processses. |
20 Dec 2011 |
|
821 |
information theory proves that
the perfect imitation is the real thing. But what do you need to see that all
information is really faulty?? |
20 Dec 2011 |
|
820 |
It's the natural meaning of "maturity", when
energy use stops growing and real knowledge growth
begins, stabilizing scale to grow in wisdom. |
20 Dec 2011 |
|
819 |
An odd hidden fact of life is what money measures is
exchanges for energy use, REAL"knowledge
economy" grows on a no-growth economy. |
20 Dec 2011 |
|
818 |
Like we could have ever improving healthcare for fixed
cost too, defining that as the need instead of multiplying profits to break
the bank. |
20 Dec 2011 |
|
817 |
We could have economies of growing knowledge, ever
broader and deeper on a constant budget as a future, just not growing profits
and energy. |
20 Dec 2011 |
|
816 |
@tedtalks @innovatorsblog That we don't share minds, we can't check
any other, for the whole self-responsiveness of all living things. |
19 Dec 2011 |
|
815 |
You can see time as an addition process in growth,
cycles of stimulus & response add a little each time, going in circles to
get somewhere. |
19 Dec 2011 |
|
814 |
Being unaware of time as a process of addition also
hides why earning by %'s and by $'s diverges, as the real source of wealth
disparity. |
19 Dec 2011 |
|
813 |
Mistaking efficient increase with decrease, for saving
the earth, comes with living in the "ever-present", unaware of time
as addition. |
19 Dec 2011 |
|
812 |
How did doing development that adds to our impacts on
the earth so efficiently it is said to reduce them... get called
"sustainability"?? |
19 Dec 2011 |
|
811 |
Any time contentious questions come up, someone seems
to be arguing their imagination is without bound. Shouldn't that make us
suspicious? |
19 Dec 2011 |
|
810 |
Steiglitz now saying US
economy in drift toward depression. wnyc.org/shows/bl/2011/… ..Or is it simply
nature's way of shedding excess demand? |
19 Dec 2011 |
|
809 |
Human designs are SO unresponsive to what's hidden from
view. To nature's magically sustained bursts of organization NOTHING seems
hidden. |
19 Dec 2011 |
|
808 |
@Frances_Coppola @edwardnh The 5000 years of debt have also been turmoil,
misunderstanding "be fruitful and multiply"..
creditwritedowns.com/2011/12/the-hi… |
19 Dec 2011 |
|
807 |
Why life is so magical, is partly that how the myriad
natural systems behave by themselves, beyond our view, is itself truly
magical. |
18 Dec 2011 |
|
806 |
@yesmagazine - A small giant
problem with Kortens & #Occupy just blaming
"the bandits". yesmagazine.org/people-power/d… |
18 Dec 2011 |
|
805 |
The values #TEEB puts on nature also miss the impacts
of money hidden by a lack of receipts. synapse9.com/SEA
#TED on.ted.com/A5wm |
18 Dec 2011 |
|
804 |
@CapInstitute On #Keystone,
Obama just needs to do the math. A greatly expanding commitment to outmoded
technology won't be profitable. |
18 Dec 2011 |
|
803 |
@LarissaDrekonja .. and when people don't care,.. then
count on nature to not let that to continue, as not caring is just
abdication. |
18 Dec 2011 |
|
802 |
But society is unified in asking gov.
and biz. to continually grow our profits, incomes
and demands on the earth, destabilizing the earth. |
18 Dec 2011 |
|
801 |
People don't actually need ever doubling incomes, so
finding how that is destabilizing the earth is a signal to stop, not itself a
problem. |
18 Dec 2011 |
|
800 |
What ties money to reality is how we use it,
destabilizing our world most directly using it to multiply our instructions
for our world? |
18 Dec 2011 |
|
799 |
Both common sense and calculus say you don't slow
things down being efficient at speeding them up, ..what
our money myths have us ALL doing. |
16 Dec 2011 |
|
798 |
If pushing harder earns new penalties rather than
rewards, it's often a sign of natural resistance, not a call to sacrifice and
push harder. |
16 Dec 2011 |
|
797 |
@postgrowth @socialadvoc8
Adapting to forces beyond your control is very natural, but in our case also
lets them keep getting worse. |
16 Dec 2011 |
|
796 |
Renewables won't give you limitless growing energy, but
more sustainable jobs than dirty oil pipelines to be abandoned to save the
climate. |
15 Dec 2011 |
|
795 |
@cjeder #Occupy's policy is
"everybody's pissed" a true self-affirming social value, not an insight
into what to do, so it isn't strategy. |
14 Dec 2011 |
|
794 |
Basically, regulators haven't noticed that the earth
has started producing less, so the banks suffer from their own taking of ever
more. |
14 Dec 2011 |
|
793 |
By avoiding policy debate the #Occupy policy becomes
"everyone made happy", and nearly all agreeing on a range of
contradictory things. |
14 Dec 2011 |
|
792 |
The basic problem is trusting things that work in our
heads to work in the world. Nature is simply not persuaded by our social
battles. |
14 Dec 2011 |
|
791 |
Social values actually don't make good economic theory,
wishful thinking replacing what has to work. Wish the economists knew that
too. |
14 Dec 2011 |
|
790 |
So in our continuing war with nature we're losing
decisive battles, society consumed with contradictory policy no one checks
with reality. |
14 Dec 2011 |
|
789 |
The social value *everyone* agrees on is "things
should work", but then never check if their social policy would have
that effect. |
14 Dec 2011 |
|
788 |
Investors react even worse, of
course, to finding their natural fiduciary duty is to spend their profits so
the earth isn't over-invested. |
13 Dec 2011 |
|
787 |
So, my question is why our culture so afraid of
reality, when that is clearly not a diversion, but the only way out of a jam. |
13 Dec 2011 |
|
786 |
One glaring one is the world use of efficiency to
expand production, treated as blasphemy by greens claiming the opposite for
consumption!! |
13 Dec 2011 |
|
785 |
When the schemes of the "good guys" are as mad or madder than those of the "bad guys", then
you have a real problem! |
13 Dec 2011 |
|
784 |
@giyom - yes,
"conquering death" with average impacts of using 8000btu, like
1/2kg CO2 & paving more earth, per $1. synapse9.com/design/dollars… |
13 Dec 2011 |
|
783 |
I mention it, as the world DOES measure the energy use
for products as "0" when lacking information, not
"average"...http://synapse9.com/SEA |
12 Dec 2011 |
|
782 |
Like treating a lack of information as proof of what
you like, with the energy cost of using money = 0 not "average", if
you can't trace it. |
12 Dec 2011 |
|
781 |
A telling example is treating a lack of information as
proof of what we like, the energy cost of using money being 0, if you don't
see it. |
12 Dec 2011 |
|
780 |
How people don't think straight is seen in our not
using reasoning to fill the gaps in our reasoning, but self-affirming
guesswork instead. |
12 Dec 2011 |
|
779 |
@Revkin Andy, nyti.ms/rO4O2k
is so clearly dimwitted, to ignore rates of change entirely, I'm shocked you
don't offer it as ironic |
12 Dec 2011 |
|
778 |
@CapInstitute @Adbusters -So why wouldn't it be worth studying the
natural economics of the real world? (To see what dreams can be real) |
12 Dec 2011 |
|
777 |
But the question is does ANYONE want out of the mind's
traps of artificial reality enough to escape them, and would that change
anything? |
12 Dec 2011 |
|
776 |
#CSR #SRI ...well, of course, not to overlook that the
whole PURPOSE of #consciousness is essentially to let us bask in
self-deception... |
12 Dec 2011 |
|
775 |
But GDP *IS* *REAL end goods and services*, in units
scaled to enduring values like food and fuel, with GDP & impacts seen
growing together. |
12 Dec 2011 |
|
774 |
People want "#decoupling" money from impacts
to work. The impacts of money aren't what you see, though, but what average
people do with it. |
12 Dec 2011 |
|
773 |
"Green Climate Fund" will reduce carbon
locally to promote it with growth globally, the real source of ALL our
conflicts with the earth. |
12 Dec 2011 |
|
772 |
People wouldn't need to become ever more productive to
survive, if their profits weren't used for #feedback driving the entire
economy to. |
11 Dec 2011 |
|
771 |
Being consumed with continuing the main problem, ever
growing productivity using up the earth for profit, it seems all anyone has
time for. |
11 Dec 2011 |
|
770 |
@Revkin @brodernyt No
timeline for CO2 works while ignoring the 80% of energy demand for uncounted
business services. synapse9.com/SEA |
11 Dec 2011 |
|
769 |
That business services all promote our main economic
purpose, growth, and ever multiplying resource demand,...
then seems hidden from view. |
11 Dec 2011 |
|
768 |
The REAL reasons for energy demand now persistently
exceeding supply is the ~80% of demand hidden in business services, and what
THEY do. |
11 Dec 2011 |
|
767 |
So the energy discussion uses highly
"asymmetric" data, as if the ~20% of business energy demand from
technology worked in total isolation. |
11 Dec 2011 |
|
766 |
Businesses record the energy demands of technology, but
can't for the FAR larger energy use for outsourced
services. synapse9.com/SEA |
11 Dec 2011 |
|
765 |
Social networks, like religions and even science,
create their stories of reality using information they have, overlooking what
they don't. |
11 Dec 2011 |
|
764 |
Lnkd.in/dNfJPp Carl, I do generally agree, that our
subjective view gives a subjective direction to the theories we develop.
One... |
9 Dec 2011 |
|
763 |
@ClimateReality Clean energy
would be cleaner... if it substituted for dirty energy rather than just added
to it and growing energy impacts. |
8 Dec 2011 |
|
762 |
@johnmsmart John Smart - Nice
start. No more corporate personhood in
LA, Unanimous plt.me/MjEyMDE2 |
8 Dec 2011 |
|
761 |
What @Adbusters and #Occupy
don't get is why finance has to get ever bigger ever faster, society's mistaken demand for ever growing profits. |
8 Dec 2011 |
|
760 |
What the #TeaParty doesn't
get is things can't work as for a small society in a big world, as it's the
costs of the reverse we're hitting. |
8 Dec 2011 |
|
759 |
Lnkd.in/vzcWka Well, James, I'm often in that same position.
What I usually find is if people can't agree on what the subject... |
8 Dec 2011 |
|
758 |
Lnkd.in/X95pac
Yes, we should also consider as a core question of systems thinking whether
natural phenomena are by their nature... |
8 Dec 2011 |
|
757 |
Lnkd.in/3RvMRE
What I'm trying to raise is the difference between "natural
phenomena" that work by their own complex processes,... |
8 Dec 2011 |
|
756 |
Lnkd.in/SJqsSg James, A growth is a kind of system
construction process, in which the organization of the system develops... |
7 Dec 2011 |
|
755 |
Lnkd.in/Ah4eyZ
James, Virtually every growth system is a classic example of history
dependent distributed self-organization.... |
7 Dec 2011 |
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754 |
Lnkd.in/8VnTb2
James, you seem to be reaching, to seemingly say humans should be exempt from
the observable physical properties of... |
7 Dec 2011 |
|
753 |
Lnkd.in/pjZxcT James, NECSI seems to be a scientific
organization, which studies complex systems, including those that become... |
7 Dec 2011 |
|
752 |
@Adbusters If #Occupy is all
about systemic change, how come its supporters don't talk to systemic
thinkers, just social thinkers? |
6 Dec 2011 |
|
751 |
Lnkd.in/kGExfy P.S. Elan, Just to
address one of your particular points, that I agree does *seem* to contradict
the view that... |
6 Dec 2011 |
|
750 |
We just don't live in that world any more, when a
little productivity improvement would keep uncorking limitless growing
resources. |
6 Dec 2011 |
|
749 |
Lnkd.in/8a_B28
Elan, I do agree with you on the success of
democratic government to successively improve the lives of people.... |
6 Dec 2011 |
|
748 |
@Revkin @wihbey @YaleE360 -
All that social self-affirmation, neatly avoiding discussion of THE MAIN
FORCING FACTOR, growing money. |
6 Dec 2011 |
|
747 |
Information models *always* fail when growing
complexity for physical systems goes beyond the limit of information in the
models. |
6 Dec 2011 |
|
746 |
The conceptual error in fixes for "containing a
blow-out" is failing to address BOTH the information model AND the
physical system. |
6 Dec 2011 |
|
745 |
A strategic error in fixes for "containing a
blow-out" is doing it to raise the pressure at which rupture will occur;
band-aids for a bomb! |
6 Dec 2011 |
|
744 |
"Fixers" assure us "it will never happen
again", followed by ever bigger and bigger financial crises, nature's
way of marking our exam. |
6 Dec 2011 |
|
743 |
@Adbusters Oh gosh no. The
"long night of the left" won't *never* end, as long at it's a static social philosophy not a discovery
process. |
6 Dec 2011 |
|
742 |
Lnkd.in/VVfeA6
Elenor, You mention Brazil as a success story. If
you recall our own economy had a quite long run of "lifting all... |
5 Dec 2011 |
|
741 |
lnkd.in/i-rQ73 Elad, I sympathize with your difficulty in understanding
the physics, and what happens at the natural limits of... |
5 Dec 2011 |
|
740 |
Lnkd.in/k9HfSu
Well, but is the defensiveness of social networks that find themselves under
attack "natural" or just a "symptom".... |
5 Dec 2011 |
|
739 |
#FiatCurrency helps multiply
unreal promises of wealth and earnings. Which #feedback loops do do that, and what rules would eliminate them? |
5 Dec 2011 |
|
738 |
Looking for better promises of wealth, we are confused
by procedures offering reliable #feedback for "promises just too good to
be true". |
5 Dec 2011 |
|
737 |
After centuries of financial panics, our fixes still
rely on promises "too good to be true", causing greater panics. synapse9.com/signals/2011/1… |
5 Dec 2011 |
|
736 |
We haven't pinned down why our accounts for wealth
create illusory wealth, so our faith based procedures still let bad faith
multiply. |
5 Dec 2011 |
|
735 |
One reason we keep talking past each other, is mostly
assuming our opinions are reality, since we determine reality from our
opinions... ;-) |
4 Dec 2011 |
|
734 |
Lnkd.in/pHQhEw I hope we don't drop the discussion of which
particular financial procedures make stabilizing our financial system... |
4 Dec 2011 |
|
733 |
Quite oddly most NON-INTELLECTUALS think using up
depleting resources ever faster for prosperity is a **very bad plan**, but
not "EXPERTS". |
4 Dec 2011 |
|
732 |
Could it be "leading experts" all draw the
world "inside out", the earth as an idea projected from their
thought, and so deny all reality? |
4 Dec 2011 |
|
731 |
Why is it even so rare for INTELLECTUALS go beyond just
harping from private points of view, on the obvious singular calamity of our
time? |
4 Dec 2011 |
|
730 |
Why is SCIENCE (or the PRESS, or BUSINESS, or the
PUBLIC) so SILENT ON EVER EXPANDING use of the earth changing how we can use
it?? |
4 Dec 2011 |
|
729 |
That intellects draw reality as projected by their
minds is made whole again, experiencing back and forth, mind as projected by
nature too. |
Dec 4 2011 |
|
728 |
#Intellectuals are nearly ALL fooled, really, by "slowing down the
speeding up" having BOTH THE DIRECT AND REVERSE EFFECTS of
"addition". |
Dec 4 2011 |
|
727 |
Quite oddly most NON-INTELLECTUALS think using up
depleting resources ever faster for prosperity is a **very bad plan**, but
not "EXPERTS". |
Dec 4 2011 |
|
726 |
Could it be "leading experts" all draw the
world "inside out", the earth as an idea projected from their
thought, and so deny all reality? |
|
|
725 |
Why is it even so rare for INTELLECTUALS
go beyond just harping from private points of view, on the obvious singular
calamity of our time? |
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|
724 |
Why is SCIENCE (or the PRESS, or
BUSINESS, or the PUBLIC) so SILENT ON EVER EXPANDING use of the earth
changing how we can use it?? |
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|
723 |
So, if #FiatCurrency multiplies money and debt in all the wrong hands, which links
on its #feedback loops do you hook up
some where else? |
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|
722 |
@CapInstitute Sounds like an interesting opportunity,... but Bluestockings,
172 Allen St. is a trek, far lower East Side.. |
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|
721 |
Simple reality is: MONEY = requests for
delivering physical goods and services, and rules totally change as that goes
from "SMALL" to "BIG". |
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|
720 |
lnkd.in/GemwAy A simple, and seemingly valid, overview seems to be that money
has real value only when it for corresponds to... |
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|
719 |
lnkd.in/g_qi6V A simple, and seemingly valid, overview seems to be that money
has real value only when it for corresponds to... |
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|
718 |
The ANTIDOTE TO MADNESS is in realizing
definitions are immaterial, and have value only THROUGH material chains that
can't be defined. |
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|
717 |
Odd thing about real cultural crises,
terrible thing to waste but they drive people INTO madness not sober them up,
much of the time. |
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|
716 |
But, as you see.., "finance" is
a "procedure", not a "person" so our fault is failing to
question our own common purposes, NOT misbehaviors. |
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|
715 |
That finance puts money into the cash
economy ONLY to take more out, starts as stimulating and ends by draining our
whole system of life. |
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|
714 |
lnkd.in/eZ8756 Well, it used to be thought that a
workforce needed to be mobile, so it was good for them to have an
expensive... |
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|
713 |
lnkd.in/P3GCbd That's the trick. Natural phenomena
are indefinable, as you quickly find out when you study their detailed... |
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|
712 |
lnkd.in/44Dsj6 Why? Doesn't financial capital go
wherever it can get the best return, so everyone's pension funds then... |
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|
711 |
lnkd.in/q3JCHJ I'm not sure, but it's not clear
whether you are equating information with energy, and I certainly would find
that... |
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|
710 |
@SteadyStateEcon The people long predicting the
crisis, though, mostly keep promoting popular social solutions that don't
address the cause. |
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|
709 |
lnkd.in/BiX6gB I think there is still a conspicuous
"loose end" in asking where the distorted demand for real estate
came from.... |
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|
708 |
lnkd.in/ravHEk The simpler way to say it is that
"energy" refers to defined kind of information about a physical
subject that... |
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707 |
lnkd.in/ZmxZ54 As a physical scientist I think the
beginning of science is the step *before* asking "why". That's to closely... |
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|
706 |
To "create jobs" the best
profit is in jobs like "high-technology" that very visibly
cannibalize "mid-technology" jobs. No one notices. |
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705 |
We know from Econ 101 that new jobs
always displace old jobs, either for a net gain or a net loss, no politician
studies or mentions!! |
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704 |
lnkd.in/xE-cFz One needs to not forget for
following the chains of effects with economies to "follow the
money" as well as to... |
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703 |
lnkd.in/aY3dxH I use the information rules of
physics to help me ask better questions about individual events, like a
forensic... |
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702 |
lnkd.in/yV76-q Hmmm... most
people complain that I'm much too specific, though the unfamiliar systems
physics approach I use is... |
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|
701 |
Why our limit of "low hanging
fruit" is "falling off the ladder"...natural limits of reach
in controlling the unknown.synapse9.com/signals/2011/1… |
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|
700 |
lnkd.in/V7xjxi James, You're correct that the
intent of the economy's design is "based on ideals of goodness" but
it contains a... |
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|
699 |
lnkd.in/uQyGwT Well, it's likely we are
interpreting each other's words differently, and not understanding quite what
they refer... |
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698 |
lnkd.in/yuB6AV I think Yaneer
would agree that whether the system meets everyone's needs or not is not a
scientific question. His... |
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697 |
@Ethical_Corp Why
impacts grow faster than the restraint is that MOST ARE NATURALLY
UNTRACEABLE. synapse9.com/SEAethicalcorp.com/governance-reg… |
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|
696 |
@yesmagazine The
universal trap at the end of "low hanging fruit" is "falling
off the ladder", rising risk and reduced energy to respond. |
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|
695 |
Endless fictions, making our stories
"look good" and "feel good", while dodging the reality
well shy of "being good", lead to dead ends. |
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|
694 |
Then... why aren't drug consumers accessories to the crimes of the drug cartels,
as "environmental impacts" of purchases, like any other? |
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693 |
@STWR_ "Real
world theory" comes from clear observation not social self-affirmation,
as most"expert" and "dissenting
theory" both come from. |
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692 |
@STWR_ ???
But "economists from around the world" are the experts who made
this mess!! We need people who see the world not only a theory. |
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691 |
@ClimateReality @IEA_OECD Oddly..clean
energy is NOT USED TO REPLACE fossil fuels, but to ADD TO AND ACCELERATE our
alteration of the earth. |
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690 |
@postgrowth We
FAIL if we trust the #artismal to sustain complex, universities,
information tools, society, etclexiconofsustainability.com |
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689 |
@timepaystime @jfnoubel Finding
your way is NOT finding your voice alone, both REQUIRE finding and exploring
your PATH in nature. |
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688 |
@OccupyWallSt @OccupyWallStNYC WE need to DO it, not just agree to
complain... but to Prick the bubble or Bleed it???synapse9.com/signals/2011/1… |
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687 |
@arcticfutures @TanjaHichert -
but @TEEB,
doesn't use SEA yet,for
the shares of known but not traceable impacts.synapse9.com/SEA |
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|
686 |
...then the other detail, taking
efficiency to the extreme, everyone the world over pushed, in effect, to
"make bricks without straw". |
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685 |
Nature's new plagues on our house,
terrorism and "everwar", exhausting the
earth, financial and political chaos, degrading work and family. |
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684 |
Societies consumed by plagues from their
own greed, their positive #feedbacks pushed
out of control, a historically common societal disease. |
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683 |
Is the "Exodus" story about
Egypt? It's the reverse moral tale of "Babel", a society consumed
by plagues from its own greed, that escaped. |
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682 |
#feedbacks What
you *use money for* trumps where you get it. You get energy from the exchange
economy, and then give it in the love economy. |
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681 |
Problem #feedbacks for
me, why my pointing out curiously useful gaps in our thinking seems mostly
used to show people what to cover up. |
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680 |
Money hides lots of #feedbacks, like why it can matter little
where you get or spend your money, *if what you use it for adds up*. |
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679 |
#NoThanksFor media, bloggers, commentators,
politicians who filter out the obvious major questions that might cost them
market share to ask. |
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678 |
#NoThanksFor social networks that treat finding
fault as all there is to simplifying a world, that
somehow got MUCH too complex. |
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677 |
#NoThanksFor social networks that just make up
their own realities, like the fiction that we use efficiency for consuming
less not more! |
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676 |
#NoThanksFor experts, anchors, consultants,
regulators, theorists, specialists all, with no theory working but something
else is at fault. |
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675 |
#NoThanksFor pension funds devoted to the
"fiduciary" obligation to maximize returns and send our children's
jobs overseas. |
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674 |
#NoThanksFor a culture all tied up in it's made
up realities, displaying no sense but "wrong direction" |
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673 |
@TIME @bryanrwalsh But
pepper spray *IS* a vegetable, it's only a matter of words. No need to check
the facts against what's real. |
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672 |
@InvasiveNotes Hmm.. guess that's like conserving the resources we know about,
as if we weren't laying waste to the greater ones we don't. |
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671 |
lnkd.in/uRhryZ I share Yaneer's
view that the problem the "Occupy" movement points to is real and
critical to respond to. It's... |
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670 |
@postgrowth @adbusters So
our society is going mad. With our solutions being the real problem scapegoating replaces the search for answers. |
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669 |
@postgrowth @adbusters Our
consumption keeps growing by the earnings from it being added to investments
in it. That's the physical cause. |
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668 |
@postgrowth @adbusters So
your real total impacts on the earth are in scale with your *income*,
regularly ~8000btu/$.synapse9.com/SEA |
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667 |
@postgrowth @adbusters One
misunderstanding in the idea of #buynothingday is that everyone spends their whole
income anyway!! |
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666 |
@Revkin @guardian @keithkloor Giving
up on dealing with clear realities is another sign of madness in social
networks.synapse9.com/signals/2011/1… |
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665 |
@jonnypeace @keithkloor @postgrowth @everyone...
I think we all need to find a good test for identifying mad societies.synapse9.com/signals/2011/1… |
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664 |
@postgrowth Why
is reality so anti-social? You're clearly selling false worlds if it's about
floods of limitless opportunity. |
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663 |
lnkd.in/gxyKap Well, yes of course. That's why I
termed my first paper on the subject "The Infinite Society, growth
induced... |
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662 |
@Revkin @wordle @realclimate -
A nice display of the words used, but the SUBTEXT of making the world safe
for endless growth is the killer. |
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661 |
@Ethical_Corp "Sustainable
supply chains" is "sustaining growth", so addressing visible
impacts as you multiply the much larger hidden ones. |
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660 |
@postgrowth Brock
is glib with pop social theory. Real self regulating economies just STOP
growing as they get BIG.synapse9.com/issues/EarthBu… |
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659 |
@Revkin @wordle @realclimate Preventing
climate change will still accelerate the economic destruction of the earth,
though. Wazzup?? |
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658 |
The problem with productivity is the
profits drive the appetites ahead of the needs.., so people take on ever
greater risks to stand still. |
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657 |
Small things that get big just have to
stop. Doesn't all the magical thinking of the magical thinkers arguing with
that just waste time?? |
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656 |
We may have infinite concepts of each
other and the earth, but our talents and the earth remain finite, don't they? |
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655 |
@prabhupingali But what's the answer for increasing
global demand on resources already being over-depleted. Who do you take them
from? |
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654 |
@Ethical_Corp Re:
'Tobin tax', in case not clear, "NOT taxing trades but divesting some
gains", sends same money to the people not the gov. |
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653 |
@Ethical_Corp The
'Tobin tax' seems brilliantly idiotic. The sure and steady way is NOT taxing
trades but to require divesting some gains. |
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652 |
lnkd.in/7g9qcs I agree that a "whole
systems" view is more likely to give useful results, but sometimes one
has to spend a good... |
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651 |
In physical reality... as an end to
growth, the principle of investment reverses, and THEN "the best is yet
to come".synapse9.com/issues/NatDevl… |
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650 |
I've been studying the interaction for 40
years. The social networks won't explore nature's new rules, just new excuses
to fit the old ones. |
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649 |
So...basically, we're completely screwed.
No eyes, no brain, dreamed up solutions making it worse. Need some sort of
"hail Mary pass"... |
|
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648 |
Nature changed reality as we went from
small to big. Social networks started creating ones
of their own, excluding the explorers of nature. |
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647 |
Why we got socially correct policy to be
"anti-physical" and physically correct policy to be
"anti-social" is your first advanced homework. |
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646 |
Sustainability is feel good policy, easy
to check for that, but promotes growth so backfires for conserving the earth,
disastrously. |
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645 |
Social policy relabeled
"sustainability", gave us a certain method of speeding up economic
energy use to slow it down.synapse9.com/pub/EffMultipl… |
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644 |
Part of the dilemma is our sustainability
science policy coming from social activists, who are unaware of how the
physical world works. |
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643 |
The disaster is that virtually all the
physically correct solutions to our "wicked problem" are
anti-social. We are NOT learning as we go. |
|
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642 |
@BillGates ALL the popular renewable energy
solutions are designed make our energy crisis worse, dependency on
multiplying energy use. |
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641 |
When nature's rules change social rules
don't, so social policy isn't physically correct, and correct physical policy
is anti-social. Crash! |
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640 |
The conversation is missing that the
rules change as you go from small to big. That's
what all would agree, IF we were learning as we go. |
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639 |
Just take me as an explorer, a source of
rather good questions to take to heart. We need fresh insight. Our social
values are misleading us. |
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638 |
@Ethical_Corp -
A big hole in the conservation strategy is pointed out by new research...
growing hidden impacts!ethicalcorp.com/communications… |
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637 |
lnkd.in/wpnG45 Yes, complex systems are learning
networks, but when their learning is hampered, the question posed is
"what are... |
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636 |
#Occopy needs to tap the brains knowing the
procedures to change to turn a runaway growth system off. Every cell relies
on the whole body. |
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635 |
What's so foolish about #Occupy is
that global financial systems respond to social pressure no more than to new
colors on their computers. |
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634 |
To alter our fate put gifts to good use.
Divesting profits removes the cause of extreme inequality and fatally growing
strain on the earth. |
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633 |
Without explorers social networks are
dead in the water, prone to be thrown by waves of change, like those from
**OUR BIG SPLASH** on earth. |
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632 |
Because all social networks make up their
own mental realities, only their explorers keep them barely aware of the
world outside. |
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631 |
What I'm actually looking for is other people curious to look where they're not sure
what they'll find, real explorers of the world. |
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|
630 |
What I'm actually looking for is NOT an
impossibly complex society for impossibly simple people, who can see nothing
but their own beliefs. |
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|
629 |
Why look for the
problems your solutions cause?? It's so unpopular to do so, and
treated with such visceral disdain, it does seem perverse. |
|
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628 |
So sadly predictable over thousands of
years, productive societies great with the first task, just don't see the
next one coming. |
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|
627 |
Great societies meet problems they can't
solve if "productivity" is only for the problems they start with,
not the ones they'll run into. |
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626 |
Historians will look back and see, we
kept trying solutions making our problems ever worse, caught asking the wrong
question to the end. |
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|
625 |
The problem with our brains is expecting
all that matters to fit inside, when BIG parts of nature can only be sensed
by looking outside. |
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|
624 |
As we change the earth we want core
values to steer us right. But the problem now is trusted beliefs we can't
check, steering us all wrong, |
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|
623 |
Rules aren't what makes
life fun, but we keep needing more and more, multiplying with money. No fun |
|
|
622 |
@postgrowth Post
growth fails to be sustainable, you know, for a society that continues to
rely on multiplying money. You GOTTA fix that. |
|
|
621 |
It’s often not obvious how to “get smart”
when your society’s been so dumb. |
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|
620 |
#Occupy The
great thoughts in our minds do feel infinite. Is that what leaves Wall Street
too proud or confused to admit the earth isn't? |
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|
619 |
#Occupy Should
get smart! Rising costs of being fooled by money, like efficiency to make
exploitation more profitable.synapse9.com/pub/EffMultipl… |
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|
618 |
@Storify War in Vietnam stopped due to rising
costs, protests pointed out. Now #Occupy exposes
rising cost of money pillaging the earth. |
|
|
617 |
Mad as hatters on earth, our way of
preventing climate change for profit, to maximize growth rate of energy use
and the impacts of our uses. |
|
|
616 |
The problems of "ever more"
just get "ever worse", is what anyone sees joining nature's
"social group", a very tough sell for our society's. |
|
|
615 |
How DO we respond to growing up with
false purposes, the false ideal of "ever more" and the quick fixes
for its ever exploding problems?? |
|
|
614 |
@freakonomics There's
TREMENDOUS value found in "worthless" study of your own purposes,
to see if achieving them makes your problems worse. |
|
|
613 |
Looking around without your usual
assumptions, a break from boredom, a refreshing escape, a critical service to
your network. |
|
|
612 |
People seem to agree the fatal flaws in
how we're fixing things are real, but then go where that won't be pointed out
rather than help. |
|
|
611 |
@BBCRBlack For guiding "expert-ism's"
of ALL kinds, the cure isn't a science of what rules to follow but for seeing
what rules are changing. |
|
|
610 |
@BBCRBlack "Climate scepticism"
has more in common with all "ism's",
reconstructing reality to suite a social network, and its own nature. |
|
|
609 |
So it ends up being not a science of what
rules nature is following, but one of discovering what ones she's changing... |
|
|
608 |
What an honest person of computer then
finds is, "Gee, what causes change in nature and in our stories are
*completely* different!!" |
|
|
607 |
Nature uses growth to build things, so
growth curves make smart people or computers ask "what's building",
to then try to look and see. |
|
|
606 |
It's just more evidence that the world
either doesn't now or never worked the way the experts think, leaving people
to just scramble. |
|
|
605 |
The problem with debt is the experts keep
selling us bets that just don't pan out, taking their profit without sharing
in the risks at all. |
|
|
604 |
That renewables don't displace, but add
to, fossil fuels is a sad fact of how efficiency just multiplies demand.synapse9.com/pub/EffMultipl… |
|
|
603 |
Not understanding the problem, 4 decades
of growing alternative fuel use has left our growing rate of fossil fuel use
the same! |
|
|
602 |
@Revkin No
risk.. but the big one,
that feeding a growth system new energy accelerates its expansion, total
energy use, and total impacts. |
|
|
601 |
@Adbusters well... to be a revolution #Occupy mainly
needs to find what changes whole envionmental
systems not in anyone's control, insight. |
|
|
600 |
#NOVA Being
unable to distinguish local physical processes from global statistical rules.. seems actually why we can't
understanding change. |
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|
599 |
#NOVA -
A dual reality does it, natural behavior of local physical processes
contrasted with the natural description of it with statistics. |
|
|
598 |
#NOVA But
what then explains the bursts of original organizational growth readily seen
at every scale of behavior? Have an elegant answer? |
|
|
597 |
@MarkH603 @markmykleby @revkin @makower @slim_lim ..Oh gosh, Slaughter's
"strategic narrative" still has everyone multiplying everything!! |
|
|
596 |
@blietaer but nature has a way to fool the
fool, make him spend his due, and balance the books short of infinity. No
name as yet ¸¸¸.•´ ¯ |
|
|
595 |
#NOVA ...
one wonders what planet they think they live on, one that always follows
their rules?? Or one just letting them make up their
own? |
|
|
594 |
#NOVA ...
but really, would the originator of statistical physics bother with objecting
to uncertainty?? Or is that more likely a revision? |
|
|
593 |
#NOVA ...but
then if ALL of nature and the whole of the universe too were in our heads,
our predictions would actually BE it's
causation! |
|
|
592 |
#NOVA hmmm...
Was he perhaps complaining about the common presumption that our predictions
are the source of causation in nature??? |
|
|
591 |
#NOVA Hey,
Einstein really did think the then new philosophy of theoretical physics was
bunk, a dream, and no one knows quite what he meant. |
|
|
590 |
#NOVA What
madness have we on TV, a universe of theory that
conflicts with every sense? Must be the mad scientists saving us yet again. |
|
|
589 |
@aleksj @ungrok What
inspired my study of nature's multi-scale designs was the eventfulness of
real systems so missing from our theories. |
|
|
588 |
@storyofstuff ...then
the Story of Broke - Part II (the end of broke), the True Whole Story of
Debt! synapse9.com/signals/2011/1… |
|
|
587 |
@NRDC Saving
the climate, forests, our health, etc... divert us
from solving the problem, an economy built for ever multiplying demand. |
|
|
586 |
For the sovereign debt bubble the REAL
cure is to mark it all down globally and stop the endless re-lending of the
earnings that pumps it. |
|
|
585 |
Tricks of many kinds can add delays, but
the REAL way to keep financial bubbles from bursting is to let out some air
and turn off the pump. |
|
|
584 |
@jimmy_wales -
Nature loves super efficient designs that people scoff at, like funding the
web with subscribtions to every page at $.25/hr. |
|
|
583 |
I think responding as if the reality
mattered probably seems it might make us look stupid, but actually would make
us rightly proud. |
|
|
582 |
June 2011, PNAS, Recent ecological
responses to climate change support predictions of high extinction risk. pnas.org/content/early/… |
|
|
581 |
If impact reduction for a century, to
1900 levels, greatly cut the likely extinction of 1 in 8 species, would we
feel proud or look stupid? |
|
|
580 |
@Revkin In
the list of sources of ever growing resource demand, is there any one that
can continue without leaving the earth impoverished?? |
|
|
579 |
@Revkin Andy,
your links are great, but on impacts and resource supply. Aren't those
problems caused by our still ever growing demand?? |
|
|
578 |
@aleksj ...and I gather meritocracy and
aristocracy still dominate because generous curiosity is harder to explain?? |
|
|
577 |
In a way we're largely done with the
conquering phase, needing to catch up on the home making phase, more making
things whole than plunder. |
|
|
576 |
Trying not to break social codes as their
teachings fail, is a plausible reason for why most civilizations collapsed
faster than they grew. |
|
|
575 |
Facing why our ideals lead us to destroy
our planet is risky, seeing the addiction of those we trust to lying about
life and death matters. |
|
|
574 |
The oldest rule of science is to find
questions that have answers you can check, to keep building on by checking
them in new situations. |
|
|
573 |
Such clear confusion about reality, by
our entire world expert community, demands strong reactions and clearer
views, but where are they? |
|
|
572 |
Economists see no connection between
money and reality as equations have no people in them... and it's PEOPLE who
connect money to reality. |
|
|
571 |
There's an even BIGGER change in the
thought process that comes when you recognize that the active parts of ecosyste...bit.ly/sMWTOk |
|
|
570 |
We unsuspectingly benefit in New York,
from the spoils of all the stolen fortunes that come, as a game to some, life
or death to others. |
|
|
569 |
Why endless growth is needed to have
steady employment and income is mostly for ever growing pay for people piling
up money to never spend. |
|
|
568 |
Thinking nature works by how we think, of
course, is also an impoverished view, keeping the real magic of life and our
world hidden from us. |
|
|
567 |
So we don't notice that money piling up
as savings while earnings painfully shrink, is a "simple" matter of
the money saved not being spent. |
|
|
566 |
Mixing up consciousness, "what we
see", with the world, "what we look at", makes natural events
seem to work by our own social values. |
|
|
565 |
@postgrowth @theneweconomics @mlhynes -
Be angry with those who aren't! Our crime is improving life to the point of
destroying the earth. |
|
|
564 |
Where do you see it?? It's in "the
American dream" being "more", kept unassailably pure by
ignoring all the quite obvious consequences. |
|
|
563 |
Odd... that we took "improving
life" within a hair of destroying our future on earth, blind trust in
our great ideals clearly betraying us. |
|
|
562 |
@b0yle But
isn't there still some SMALL chance that there is a real world, the reality
we look at as opposed to the one we see in our heads? |
|
|
561 |
So.. if our cultural leaders are misled by mistaken ideals,
why? ..do they think reality is determined in their
thoughts, not the reverse?? |
|
|
560 |
Of ALL my marvelous creations, what it
the world made me think it would be fun to create a species to become the
ultimate global mess??? |
|
|
559 |
Listen carefully to those pointing to
deep problems with our common beliefs, and ignore those saying the problem is
cheaters and tricksters. |
|
|
558 |
It does indeed make a big difference in
the meaning, that you read my word "reorganize" as
"recognize"!! ok-) I ... bit.ly/rPQFva |
|
|
557 |
Still.., it can be risky and painful to
question popular social ideals, even if it's evidently necessary for our own
survival as a society. |
|
|
556 |
The thriving economies of nature we
admire, though, start with multiplying but change ideals, instead of
continuing it till they collapse. |
|
|
555 |
Well.. the problem would HAVE to be the mistaken ideals of those
we admire and respect, their popular social images of a very false reality. |
|
|
554 |
If government, science, finance and
business are all teamed up to help us plant economic seeds to multiply more
to a tragic end, why? |
|
|
553 |
@nprguyraz You ask why the loss of trust??? How
about a society running short on resources that defines prosperity as
accelerating it?! |
|
|
552 |
@kmett @aleksj Can't
getting lost in layers of spaghetti code be a sign of adding epicycles of
solutions to an always ill-defined problem? |
|
|
551 |
@Bill_Gross @Storify #startup The
big common error in start-up's is not looking where they end up, thriving in an world designed to crash. |
|
|
550 |
Among the huge mental errors that got us
here is that "finding resources" doesn't expand them at all, just
expands their rate of depletion. |
|
|
549 |
The heart of our problem unexplored...?
An economy teaching us to specialize in using up its resources as fast as
possible, just for fun! |
|
|
548 |
Teaching solutions keeps students from
exploring the problems, hiding why and how to take the lead, to pursue blind
specialization instead. |
|
|
547 |
But an economy that adds by %'s, to give money ever bigger raises every day, gives us
bigger raises of complexity and conflicts daily too. |
|
|
546 |
Oddly hidden, why using money to make
money keeps adding by %'s, giving out ever bigger
raises on every month, not realistic, just the math! |
|
|
545 |
@danlatorre @Storify ...
but how do you tell mosaic's aren't swarms of
lemmings racing for the sea? It's what the math says we're doing... |
|
|
544 |
The goal of "more" only ends in
a mess, unless on the way you discover your objective, and converge on some
design to make perfect. |
|
|
543 |
What "S" curve of growth
systems (¸¸¸¸.•´ ¯) show is things building from
scratch by a path of discovery, ending in purposes and objectives. |
|
|
542 |
@Revkin -
The cartoon tmblr.co/ZtU9QyBCjuwS is about our quest for "ever
more" having no objective, even after adding "and try to be nice". |
|
|
541 |
The central problem remains... as
something that virtually everyone accepts as inevitable and unquestionable,
common and good, a mistake. |
|
|
540 |
Is "Anti-TARP" the better
bailout for averting the next collapse, print money as past due wages for
shrinking the debt?synapse9.com/issues/reset$.… |
|
|
539 |
@Revkin One
reason "best laid plans for CO2 cuts not nearly enough" is the demands
for outsourced energy use uncounted!synapse9.com/SEA |
|
|
538 |
*Solve simple things first...* The root
of wealth inequality is earning by $units is linear and by $%'s is
exponential!synapse9.com/signals/2011/1… |
|
|
537 |
@postgrowth Dick
Smith rather misses why growth failed as a model, compound expansion once
served everyone, then we collided with the earth. |
|
|
536 |
Confusing but QUITE clear, financial
collapses are all caused by our taking ever bigger steps till we fall on our
face, not by tripping. |
|
|
535 |
Confusing but QUITE clear, the next
financial collapse will also be for trying to continue financial growth, not
the mistakes to be made. |
|
|
534 |
Confusing but QUITE clear, the financial
collapse was caused by trying to stabilize endless financial growth, not the
mistakes it exposed. |
|
|
533 |
RE: @CapInstitute I
offered them a workshop proposal called "How systems change form in
nature… shows the way to change the economy disq.us/3wu5oy |
|
|
532 |
When thinking of social networks as
becoming artificial realities full of nonsense, joke about ones you don't
like before your own. |
|
|
531 |
@TEEB4ME OK,
but in reality... P x A x T does *NOT* = I (since 'T' is a quite reliable
multiplier of both 'P' & 'A'. synapse9.com |
|
|
530 |
Another way to recycle plastics is to
make packaging like transformer toys, except to turn into versatile products! |
|
|
529 |
@davos Storify
collection of Tweets on WEF wef.ch/H9uP All stimulus
and no sustainability for population, economy or earth. |
|
|
528 |
Taking a mortgage in a stable world, if
bank investors hold their profits for more lending, debts grow and spending
to make incomes shrinks! |
|
|
527 |
Another is, how
social networks form cells of self-serving media, internalized story worlds
serving more and more as separate realities. |
|
|
526 |
Another item getting overlooked,
is how plans for preventing climate change need financing from ever expanding
consumer and investor greed! |
|
|
525 |
@edyong209 @kzelnio The
real main reason biology came into question is viral cells of social media,
the information age as disease not cure. |
|
|
524 |
Something, something... about what we're
all doing in response to what's happening around us, seems incredibly
unobservant. |
|
|
523 |
Meanwhile... back at the planet, (fill in
characters and actions you see) |
|
|
522 |
A real Christmas gift would be to have
the Boomers, Corps and Rich all spending down their cash, to relieve the
earth of debts and greed. |
|
|
521 |
#OCCUPYWALLSTREET @addbusters Ask
how "organized by greed" becomes "by needs", if boomers
and rich to spend their Wall Street profits. |
|
|
520 |
Oct. 22 Updates on #OCCUPYWALLSTREET by @adbusters(featuring @OccupyChicago, @AACina, @MikeElk)adbusters.org/campaigns/occu… via @storify |
|
|
519 |
Still, as Keynes clearly said and the
Scrooge found out, there's no fun at all in taking your society to the bitter
end by hording money. |
|
|
518 |
What catches us off guard is everything
in nature also begins with greed, but switches to generosity when it finds
itself, and we haven't. |
|
|
517 |
What makes it greed is like a Ponzi scheme, reliable winnings you can keep adding to
your bets, as everyone expects to get from Wall Street! |
|
|
516 |
What would change society from being
organized around greed to human needs is for both the boomers and the rich to
spend down their assets. |
|
|
515 |
Is that the way Steve Jobs would solve
things, a perfectionist like nature herself? Would real solutions to growth
give it a perfect end? |
|
|
514 |
We get caught in using stop gap
solutions, as if just milking the problem while making it worse, like using
efficiency to reduce demand. |
|
|
513 |
That human societies keep developing
beyond their own safe limits, drowning in their own complexity, doesn't mean
they have to. |
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Nature is full of examples of things that
push the limits of their design, but stay safely back from going over them
too, "S" curve growth. |
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But still, why are we accepting a formula
for prosperity requiring ever growing speed and complexity of change and
depletion of resources? |
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And... so
navigating a moving landscape with a map that's not allowed to change... led
to crash after crash after crash after crash... |
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So... the flowing rules of the
environment like growth, the purpose for enforcing the fixed rules of money,
were simply never studied. |
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It seems... concentrated money comes from
enforcing fixed rules, and so science was only paid to study the fixed rules
of nature. |
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Our cultures persistently don't notice
that the rules of nature change as you change your own environment. |
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The rules of an environment flow like a
good story, but for thousands of years authoritarian
man built cultures for fixed rules instead. |
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Sadly, not just selfish things will grow
to overwhelm the economy. Healthcare also expands health needs to use all the
resource available. |
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The problem isn't people really, but our
cultures being unable to adapt to the change in the earth, our knowledge not
flowing with nature. |
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It's all about learning to observe, where
productivity ends and greed begins, taking nature for the fool she ain't.synapse9.com/drafts/Jessie'… |
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Good example in NY Times today, people
who sold gas drilling leases can't get mortgages when banks see the haz waste liability as a cost. |
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Better way to balance the budget, stop
discounting the environmental liabilities we can measure & tax those
profiting not public credit card |
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We babble, don't we.
If we spend ~$4 a gallon for gas, how much is the cost for our kids?
...having to rebuild a failed society from nothing |
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@tweetingdonal @Revkin #pace -
Our running out of money for stop gap measures is nature's clear hint, we
better solve the real problem! |
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@Revkin ...
But "the hard choices" are often really
the easier ones in the end, actually solving things instead of just putting
it off. |
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To end wealth inequity, so wealth
reflects the value of work, earnings in $%'s are spent making $unit incomes
for work by the piece or hour. |
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To be precise, wealth inequality grows
when some people earn by $%'s and other people earn in $units, it's
exponential versus linear income. |
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@storyofstuff @bgreedngrowth @PaulHassing -
Might check out@ ... straight to stuff beyond the story, what nature needs from
us |
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Curious that Keynes really said to stop
adding capital returns to capital so growing greed doesn't outpace the
economy.synapse9.com/signals |
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Interesting that science has no way to
define "large" or "small", arguably one's most
relationship with their environment. |
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@stuarthorrex To
say "cheapest is the best environmentally" sounds like the science
behind "impacts = incomes" fromsynapse9.com/SEA. |
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lnkd.in/a87885 I was hoping to point to the
multiple kinds of complexity. I think some are matters of degree and others
matters... |
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@CapInstitute Gar
Alperowitz complains of reformers, just like him,
who propose cures without asking if they'll cause the same disease. |
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Well, which is a better source of fresh
cultural thinking, doubting your assumptions or affirming your aspirations?synapse9.com/signals |
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lnkd.in/eXxVKm I posted this a couple days ago,
thought it likely to be quite helpful, so reposting today with an edit.
There's... |
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Experts see a static world in their minds
following the events of the past. The real world is seen building crises by
accumulating steps. |
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Fiduciary money managers plant money as
seed to multiply seed till it bursts the economic environment because their
clients (we) ask them to |
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No farmer would be that dumb, of course,
but for some strange reason fiduciary money managers always are. |
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@aleksj And also just like money, even in
the summer any crop can become a total loss by overplanting |
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...not that it isn't also quite difficult
for us to connect words with both objects of nature and of thought and not
get them very confused. |
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Look, what seems missing is any strong
interest in why the experts have so miscalculated our self-interests #paceblogsynapse9.com/signals |
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In nature, growth systems **with a
survival instinct** change from investing profits to grow their conflicts to
spending on minimizing them. |
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Not the least difficulty with money, is how our minds give us a world made of just our
social relationships, quite leaving nature out...! |
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Social movements do well with social
conflicts. But the money problem is a conflict within our own ideas of
nature, and a less easy target. |
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@OccupyWallSt If
your cabinets are the wrong color and too small, you still need carpentry
plans, tools and supplies to change the system. |
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@OccupyWallSt @TeaParty .. The 1 + 2 + 3 argument =
to more jobs and less debt, is spending from the excesses of concentrated
profits. |
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If the problem is bigness getting bigger,
taking over the earth and our lives, closely study what additions cause it. @OccupyWallSt |
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@OccupyWallSt What
social networks can do that experts often can't is notice the new questions
going around and ask them loud and clear. |
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@OccupyWallSt Of
all the essential ingredients, what social networks have the most trouble
finding is fresh insight...synapse9.com/signals/ |
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@johnmsmart Yea,
OK, but that won't work either if the only "stable state" of our
economy has ever multiplying demand. |
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@OccupyWallSt Good
bets do thrive at first, adding your winnings to them again and again, but
destroys your whole environment to continue. |
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@OccupyWallSt wants
to "change the culture" unaware how that comes from our "not
changing the procedure", that of *adding winnings to bets*. |
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Jobs said "aim higher". Are we
being defeating by compromise? Growing impacts can be stopped only for the
WHOLE, with NO parts left out. |
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Steve Jobs wanted people to know their
own vision, and the difference between vision and what there is to build with
too, to make it real. |
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That's what I described as a natural
limit due to growth creating confusion, in the 1979 essay "The Infinite
Society".synapse9.com/phpub.htm |
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Another structure changing our world is
everyone trying to be efficient by doing everything in a hurry, making plans
into scrambled eggs! |
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...but confounding the WHOLE effort is
our inability to get plans for our working categories to correspond to
nature's working things, |
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Since if we don't stop growing in scale
we'll keep dismembering our environments and families for parts to maximize
their service to money. |
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and, spending from saved unearned income is what's needed,
*nature's way*, to stop using the economy's profits for multiplying its
scale. |
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The difference is between how nature
works, with ever changing relationships, and our running the world with
formulas for fixing them. |
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@STWR_ #occupywallstreet The RIGHT goal changes the system.
Not taxing the rich, but their spending enough accumulated unearned income. |
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Do think of nature less as categories connected
by our views and feelings, more as organizations emerging within webs of
building prosesses. |
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... "planting
to care for offspring", harvesting from investment to feed others not
just multiply more investment... is real sustainability. |
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...and natural for men to feel more
undirected as planting seed to multiply seed comes to an end, and planting to
care for offspring begins. |
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The root confusion, of course, finding
answers reflecting ourselves as what's real, just ignoring the life around us
raising new questions. |
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Our choice to become lost in
self-entertainments and technology, at our time to turn and find our place on
earth, irony for synergy later. |
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Or simply, growth *always* makes trusted
ways of the past impossible in the future, including growth, so living in the
past comes to an end. |
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@HarvardBiz #CSR Shouldn't
long term maintenance of the business environment show as a
anticipated costs on current business balance sheets? |
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@csrexecs #CSR is
also the tool to help companies understand why nature forces whole growth
systems to think of something else to do. |
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@ryanschuchard #CSR supply
chain carbon is tricky, exposing major environmental accounting error in ISO
14000 std's...synapse9.com/SEA |
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So... the whole design of economies, for
endless growth to start, makes them naturally impossible and needing
reinvention as something else. |
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Mother nature's game is to give things
one game only to throw them off it, just to see what they do. Odd indeed, but
immensely creative. |
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It's just nature's "zany" way
of thinking, to start things with impossible dreams of infinity, to watch how
they scramble for alternatives. |
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What's always unexpected is how growth is
designed to make itself impossible... cooking an environment for the
evolution of something else. |
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...and then also that every new situation would seem to require 'downloading' new software from someplace... |
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Maybe the problem with determinism is the needed rules for the software having to be much more complex than the hardware. |
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@aleksj -Related to fall off in use of words "growth" and "complex"? See Google ngram. |
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So science can't have determined all causes are external, if internal causes occur but information on how is naturally hidden from our view. |
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You see organisms, storms, cultures, technologies, movements, etc, animated by bursts of change internally, for no apparent outside cause. |
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An important observation is how clearly the way nature organizes things remains hidden inside the things she organizes, out of our view. |
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@STWR_ Sure, speculation can drive up prices... but the actionable cause is they only can when demand exceeds supply.synapse9.com/pub/ASustInves… |
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@Revkin - Brooks' blames our "inability to think about the economy in a realistic way"...the irony is EVERYONE else is saying that too!! ;-) |
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@politifact What's the truth to the endlessly repeated claim that how we've changed the earth only expands our potential for more growth? |
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... it's our social belief and value systems that substitute for nature, when based on the social responses we get not curiosity and reason. |
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Is it natural for people to say nature works so differently than it does? Yes, quite. It's more effort to base ideas on what you observe. |
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That systems in nature work that way, bursting in scale from a seed, to survive only by stopping, can't have been studied by our ancestors. |
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So, at the end of the run for "Be fruitful and multiply." the practice that was so fruitful becomes completely unmanageable, unless stopped. |
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So it's really investors (us) that demand to have regulators, banks, science & markets multiply our investments till becoming unmanageable. |
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The joke is that why democracies are failing is the same reason dictatorships are too, ever growing solutions that create hopeless problems. |
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So the real reason democracy is failing is that finance multiplied solutions into completely unmanageable problems. |
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Planting your seed to keep multiplying your seed, the way finance works, brings exceptional bounty sure to end in exceptional tragedy. |
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The real fault isn't with regulators or banks, but 'mad' investors demanding a stability for ever multiplying returns that won't go bankrupt. |
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It's not the buildings that sustained us before making us unsustainable now. It's our scale, and money driving it to increase ever faster. |
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That's the escape, from seeing our cultures as reality and keeping the old rules as we changed the earth, bring in new meaning from outside. |
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So.. it really is NOT a problem of fulfilling our high cultural values, but looking outside our cultures for guidance on new higher values. |
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Our cultures and theories for growth formed when we were tiny and the earth seemed infinite, now the earth's reality reversed but not ours. |
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Very curious denial, of clearly shrinking resources and growing world demand, fiduciaries all agree our best interest is in rapid growth. |
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Is the problem of investors today getting returns on the seeds they plant, to then plant more, or managing the explosions of consequences? |
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... and in the news, little but bombs, disasters and crises, while the explosions of new relationships in nature and culture go ignored. |
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...instead, having missed the turn we're still planting our seed to multiply our seeds till our entire crop wilts, ...the bitter end again. |
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Like, if finding a way to comfortably end growth was in the 1910 plan for our national parks, the good turning point would have been ~1950. |
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Going till you get to the end of the road often means you missed your turn... |
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@Revkin Causality at stake?? If you read science as saying nature follows our formulas, caisality never even had a place, only prediction. |
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Asking "If prediction isn't causation, what is??" can be a VERY good question, giving much more useful answers, like choices along the way. |
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As economies require profit for resilience or growth, warriors would see an endless use for growth as preparing for the wars it leads to. |
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The Bible displays our most ancient of recorded world views, authoritarian in its foundation, no hint of life as an ecology of partnerships. |
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Our authoritarian approach to life could come from "be fruitful and multiply" naturally causing mortal environmental conflict at its limit. |
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It's the obvious connection between money and nature, that we use money to request service from people using nature, still being overlooked. |
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Yes, it also means that what you put in the plastic bag would typically have over 1000 times the impact as the plastic of the bag. |
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e.g. As SEA proves energy use largely comes from human services, not technology, our plans need total rethinking. synapse9.com/SEA |
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So, prospering by using up life's necessities ever faster is "OK", if as it seems, it doesn't alter your social relationships. |
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So, why would dramatic and easily confirmed facts get no response? In our culture the physical world, by itself, has no social meaning. |
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So, if we use money to measure "externalities", i.e. providing physical goods and services, what then is the limit of adding money by %'s ?? |
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The choice is to find how the images in our minds are unlike the world we live in, telling concepts and theories from partnerships in life. |
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Using profits to multiply demand till the system collapses... is optional. |
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Honoring the ever growing demands of money pushes life to madness, only repeating our ancient fall from grace. It's a total waste of time. |
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Pushing growing demand till your world collapses is a betrayal of one's maker, one's ancestors, ones own whole history of creative struggle. |
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The curious problem with pushing financial demands to the collapse of a finance system, again and again, is it serves nothing but madness. |
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Most struggle to find concepts for how nature works eventful things so simply, and scientists to find anything eventful in their concepts. |
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...but why doesn't it get discussed that the need to deliver growing returns from shrinking recourses blocks every real solution?? |
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Systems that end in crises get there by having a pump of growing demands in the loop, and are relieved by turning it down or off. |
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With all these mounting crises one would think people would take an interest in what systems naturally end in crisis and their relief. |
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@Revkin @grist There is also large collateral damage from people still not discussing of individual emerging systems that make life lively. |
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So, that would mean "Question your knowledge" isn't enough, and needs to start with "Question your culture". |
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So, it might seem our culture is based on our knowledge, but looking around, only the reverse would put us in such strange deep trouble. |
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@@Revkin ... So that's confirming with a reasonable cause the decade scale cycle I said would lead to this wave of denialism, ~20 years ago. |
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So yes, it seems something surely needs to be cut, but can we tell which of natures parts is our umbilical cord and which is our throat? |
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Because forming a circle of relationships is the first definite step if new identity, a structure required for and capable of growth. |
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It's the circles of relationships in nature you watch for, by how they show their own connected behaviors, forming whole individual systems. |
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Ever growing expectations are unreal, that's all. It makes being faithful to them the problem, not the solution. |
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The brains in finance are just dropping the ball, not even studying what causes their expectation to inflate and assure cascading collapse. |
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People think Keynes was an total optimist, willing to bet on it. Actually he faced the darkness, and saw through it. synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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It's just incorrect to equate "making money" by growing your own drain of credit from other things, with "making wealth" for the economy. |
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It comes from thinking of nature as made for our social rules, and planting seed only to multiply the seed, as if nature could handle it. |
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Finance is in such trouble from traders trading for their own accounts, putting money in to take ever more out, that can't last naturally. |
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Why money pumps things up to just drain them dry, at the limit the still growing savings of some comes from draining the savings of others. |
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Does reaching for infinity become practical, by just committing to keep up with the ever bigger steps till they're out of reach? |
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When a system is already overbuilt, it's a still greater waste to continue overbuilding it. So when do we start asking how rather than why? |
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Their hiding place? In plain sight, never in our information but only internal to their own circles of organization, hidden from our view. |
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And science has **not even begun** to study the systems of nature that so handily take care of themselves,... no clue where they are even. |
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So, it seems the conceptual realities are irresolvable, even hard to make any sense of, having found no grip on the physical ones yet. |
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The bond markets keep telling us what to do so they can have systematically multiplying savings, and the intellectuals keep wondering why. |
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It's so easy to catch yourself blaming the surfer for the wave, like the ultra rich for leading a society with dreams so certain to fail. |
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@@cjeder Well, except the usual effect of efficiency is increasing energy uses 2.5 times the amount of saved... making each more profitable. |
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So, my natural systems science locates nature's hidden circles for studying their emerging behaviors, lights shining into that blind spot. |
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Or, is nature is better seen as a "wicked gossip", keeping her secrets to the circles that invent them so well, we're just quite unaware? |
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@cjeder but... IF you add the 8000btu/$ of human services needed to operate the airline and the cars, both should go up more than 100%. |
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Is it a self-betrayal?? ...to avoid discussing what practical ways exist to stop money from piling up, uncontrollably, to topple our world? |
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It's not our social values causing nature trouble and to misbehave, as she listens ONLY to our procedures, we may not see, and nothing else. |
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@donmacca @guardian @pdenlinger ... Of course, Google's GHG no. will be off from reality by a scale of 5 due to method.synapse9.com/SEA |
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It would be so nice if nature could understand the language of our social policies, and didn't only listen when we're speaking hers. |
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@Revkin @TreeHugger The Onion misses the deeper reason. Growth and climate change have to keep accelerating to pay for slowing them down! |
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@ezraklein What the economy needs is not to be "goosed" again, nor to "let it rip". Those are just beating up on an very overworked world. |
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@postgrowth @adbusters @donmacca Yes, the wave is ready to break, but the grass roots still aren't on it! Nature isn't run by social policy. |
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@Revkin Isn't the real answer that slowing down radiation speeds up convection EVERYWHERE?? Let's teach people to think scientifically! |
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Free will isn't of much use without clear vision, is it. But we just don't yet see our habit of adding %'s as what's exploding our planet. |
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The other "Why??" is less simple. Why no one notices is that most see nature as behaving according to our culture wars, and not by herself. |
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The useful full answer to "Why??" is simple. Why it gets bigger and changing faster than we can manage is our always adding to it by %'s. |
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Money takes over our lives because it's designed to; to use its control to add to its control, by %'s forever, men out planting their seeds! |
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Hard science in the media? When in doubt, just hold the social status of the noise makers responsible for all natural events. |
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@postgrowth Perhaps the much stronger force of social isolation due to growth is social networks forming their own realities in isolation. |
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@GreatConvergnce @genesharpfilm .. One can't start a revolution without truth. Without limits to money we're just apologists and stooges. |
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@postgrowth "Positive Money" still missing **the one thing** that has to change, the endless growth rule of investment.positivemoney.org.uk/take-action/sp… |
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@EarthUnSummit12 @wecanada Why does every "earth summit" seem to recommit us to paying for externalities with multiplying externalities??? |
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@sergirovira @felixdodds - The future IS an achievement, and "S" curves of development reflect the nature of its construction, not numbers. |
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Nature does love our making her pregnant, but she has us pay quite dearly for doing it more and more, while never budgeting for child care. |
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What would float the jobs is only one thing, for the wealthy to spend money to give people earnings, not lend it to raise their debts. |
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A matter of scale, the men planting their seed in nature, for a growing harvest of planting ever more seed, till nature just can't take it. |
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@postgrowth Alternative economies are great niche solutions but won't fix a money system running amuck... you need Keynes' lasting solution. |
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@RBReich - But if what hurt the middle class is "the earth is full", how to slow down not speeding up is what'll help.synapse9.com/signals |
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Maybe... "equal time" should just apply to personal expression, and applied to sound science treats science as just opinion, not discovery. |
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S.O.S. S.O.S. The ship will sink if the wealthy don't spend enough money to permanently relieve everyone of excess debt. Hoarding adds up. |
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@Revkin @chrishughes @jumoconnect @GOOD - but what is slowing pace of change is NOT getting the word out, but confusion & misdirection. |
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@ScienceChanges Development begins with a burst of new relationships, processes scaling up to satisfy the energy continuity of development. |
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So you really wonder how our culture doesn't notice the little explosions of new relationships at the start of everything that happens. |
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Little bang theory... where it all begins! Every beginning built with a little burst of new relationships. |
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To have energy continuity requires process continuity, and innovation to be a little bang of construction at the beginning of all events. |
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Change isn't pressure or noise, but needs "mutation" to be a construction process, a burst of new relationships emerging, innovation. |
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@postgrowth yes, EF is a well constructed measure, but a small part of total demand, like missing ever growing demands on our talents too. |
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@aleksj Well, what's replacing commuting with communicating also splits the economy into unequal upward and downwardly mobile parts!! |
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@postgrowth @paulgilding @Freemoneyday ...but the ONLY effective anti shopping campaign is an anti earning campaign, at ~8000btu/$GDP! |
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Only one first time for anything,... unless you consider everything to be a first time for everything, life as information or a process! |
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Perception is a stream of snap judgments, rarely pausing to ask dumb questions, like why does giving money to money no longer pays us back. |
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@STWR_ In 5 min on the US debt, left out is the dilemma that paying debt doesn't produce spending, but debt upon debt to bankrupt the world. |
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..the main problem with natural systems, of course, is how they work inside is quite hidden from view, only hinted by external behavior, |
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So, we keep trying to fix our worlds of social relations, with no idea how or why our worlds of physical systems around us keep changing. |
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So, we keep trying to fix our social concept worlds, paying no attention at all to how and why the physical one is changing. |
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What we see in our minds is our own world of internal social relationships, that we confuse with the ones our world works or fails by. |
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@postgrowth - fine personal lives, but "simple life" won't alter "critical breakdowns in world systems". Want to live well in a corpse? |
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Common finding?... my "How natural system bankruptcy works" & Colin Campbell's "Seneca effect" synapse9.com/signals/2011/0…cassandralegacy.blogspot.com/2011/08/seneca… |
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@TEEB4ME Circular economy MUST include circular money - concept J.M. Keynes, Chapter 16, The General Theory -synapse9.com/ref/KeynesGenT… |
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Engineers err on the side of caution when taking on greater challenges, but for economists caution is to add them by %'s... |
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With our having such an ethic of kindness, it's evidently our ignorance that makes us behave so extraordinarily cruel. |
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At the limits of healthy growth stronger parts can keep growing by consuming the economic resources of the weak, even as the total shrinks. |
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Why does economic growth become cannibalistic? It's our rules for managing our savings, the same as for cancer, only invest to expand. |
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Why does economic growth become cannibalistic? It's our rules for using money to make money. They ask investment managers to do it. |
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Why does economic growth become cannibalistic at its limits? The strong then can only grow by consuming the (market share of the) weak. |
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@climate_diplo @KHayhoe ..."How to talk to climate skeptics"? Boy, I wish I could get past the confused fixations of climate believers! |
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#sustdev and 'green design' equally neglect the large and diverse resource demands made by ANY spending of money.synapse9.com/SEA |
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@donmacca Maclurcan offers nice images, yes, but should work with me to get them to work in nature. Nature doesn't follow social policy... |
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@pwjohnson @EarthUnSummit12 @Revkin Both #sustdev and "green economy" ignore the outsourced impacts of money, so not much different at all. |
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#irene 8:00AM No branches down anywhere in Ft Tryon park, but one, oddly broken in 8 pieces as if smashed to bits by force. |
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Two great waves of immigration, one when finding room & ways to grow, the other as growth created conflicts, different.synapse9.com/issues/Immigra… |
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If it seems the "social cost of CO2" is closer to $900/ton, the real cost per $GDP is then $0.41 scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id… synapse9.com/SEA |
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@EarthUnSummit12 @Revkin @pwjohnson - #sustainable is false really, reality SO different, just reducing visible impacts to grow hidden ones. |
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@EarthUnSummit12 @Revkin @pwjohnson - #susdev OK except 90% is usual devl. with new name & old outsourced energy use. synapse9.com/SEA/ |
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@Revkin ..but Hansen is still proposing we pay for the climate mitigation by consuming all other economic resources ever faster...! |
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Using money to just squeeze the world for more money, isn't nurturing the earth. It's our men, obsessed with empty symbols and going mad. |
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It's an internal choice to respond, not a rule or external force. Is that what's confusing? A time to take in and a time to release it... |
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It's an investment system that reinvests its profits as it becomes over-investing, like we are... that drives itself into total bankruptcy. |
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0ne thing any development system in nature needs to do is reinvest it's profits to grow and divest them to mature and survive. |
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I solved the physics problem 30 years ago, to find Keynes had solved it 50 years before me, what nature needs us to do at growth limits. |
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@Revkin We'd respond as if to a hurricane, if we spent 1/10 the effort on the changing rates of using and finding affordable resources. |
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@donmacca Economies are only slightly responsive to social policy, and not if money opposes. It ALL rests on relieving money's need to grow |
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If the deep problem is world resource demand increasing faster than supply... to restore growing demand to solve it will just make it worse! |
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Our most depleted resource is our ability to find more resources to deplete, long just assumed infinite, but actually not hard to check. |
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@TEEB4ME How about someone studying how economies work as ecologies?????? That's the real subject we owe 5000 years of back homework on. |
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@TEEB4ME ..Please, When growth becomes unprofitable for the whole, every part is at real risk. To divest not invest profits saves the day. |
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Keynes first talked about the obvious solution for 20 years, then Boulding for 40, then me for 30+. It's still the one way systems survive. |
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A friend says I should find a cartoonist or animator to help me illustrate the living world I see. |
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As the world gets more complex and less manageable it needs more resources, and progressive depletion allows less.synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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Is the film in the camera the environment seen in the picture? Does it work by the relationships observers see, as most science relies on? |
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Does the organization of how things work ever change from anywhere other than the inside, largely out of view largely by observers? |
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Looking at the world, do the things you see work by the relationships YOU see?... or does each have a world with a heart beat of its own? |
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Nature thought a little birthday party would be nice, a way to begin. But nobody came. So she just relaxed and watched the grass grow. |
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Say YES to great symbolic statements...Tell Obama to Say NO to Tar Sands. Pls RT act.350.org/sign/tar-sands/ ...and go much further yourself. |
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It's a natural system bankruptcy, EROI < 1, ever growing demand exceeding supply, shedding failing parts til it weakens the whole like Rome. |
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We finally overcame nature, the dumb way... but by rejecting her from our social realities, a harrowing partner rejection to come. |
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Our words became ungrounded and lost their real meanings because of our cultural choice to not accept nature in our social realities. |
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Even the IPCC calls for ever growing resource depletion to pay for climate mitigation... Yea, that'll work great! natural system bankruptcy |
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@donmacca Not one confronts needing to end ever growing profits. The physical world requires, the social world denies.synapse9.com/signals |
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@postgrowth - It's wrong to say "We are ecological accountants" like EF does, overlooking outsourced impacts of money.synapse9.com/SEA |
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I think the only reasonable conclusion is that somehow all our metaphors got broke, and just don't connect anymore. |
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@Revkin Rick Perry may be mad... just as divorced from reality as our world plan to sustain prosperity with ever faster resource depletion. |
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Maybe it's that so many people are trying to get a word in edgewise, practically one actually gets a chance to say anything... |
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Sparks originate opportunistically, storms originate opportunistically, phase changes originate opportunistically... |
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How come learning broke down, and everyone became an ego universalist??? |
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It seems there needs to be an opportunistic event for beginning any deterministic process. |
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In nature, growth is NOT a number on a sliding scale. It's a construction project for making something lasting and succeeds, or it fails. |
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Finding someone else's pocket to pick doesn't tell you why everyone is getting so desperate to find someone else's pocket to pick... |
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I might not have noticed... but for being offended by how men keep screwing nature just to create bigger screw guns, with no other purpose. |
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Money is actually pumped from the earth, in the form of delivered goods and services, and *that's* why it can't keep multiplying any more. |
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"More" is a terrible purpose to keep for centuries, even "saving lives" then creates diseases, bad genes & incompetence nature wouldn't. |
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@aleksj But what if information is now interpreted from invented social realities, ever more divorced from the common complex real world. |
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Look at the world consensus economic policy, more growth to use depleting resources and create externalities to not respond to ever faster. |
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Go outside your familiar network... |
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It seems an information age naturally leaves you trying to run the world with culture wars, each viewing it from its own reality. |
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It's also progress that exhausts *affordable* resources ever faster... so high overhead economies that get hit hardest. |
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Whose job is that anyway, dealing with a world psychosis... like belief in prosperity assured by using up shrinking resources ever faster? |
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Hunter/gatherers took from nature to use and work on at home, but then some used their takes to only multiply, and stopped bringing it home. |
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In real science, theory is the question, and the study of nature is always the answer. |
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@postgrowth @Freemoneyday @VenessaMiemis 13 books... that still don't fix the way we use money to grow investments...synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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@postgrowth @degrowth "co-creating no growth world" also adds to wonder about why economic "crazies" seem ALL around.synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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@STWR_ @yesmagazine "Resilient Economy" adds to wonder about why economic "crazies" seem ALL around.synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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Even life saving is limited by promoting genes and incompetence nature would have eliminated, needing a greater purpose than just "more". |
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Growth always continues till it eliminates the conditions for growth, a change in rules like your birth getting you evicted from the womb. |
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Now... if anyone would connect that with our driving money the opposite way.. we'd be getting places. thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/08/0… |
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Arctic sea ice trend.. very graphically displayed...thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/08/0… |
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Why do politicians all agree on our wasting our effort getting back to using things up ever faster to remain prosperous?? Won't work. |
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You know, like some days it's just time to listen to your own body, as it's got things to say to you? The earth's our body, listen. |
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Natural systems grow in their own bubbles, as self-defined networks growing from a seed, emerging in a burst of self-organization. |
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When it comes down to it, the people who have difficulty acknowledging error are the ones who are just not curious about the real world. |
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What kills confidence more than anything else is endless over-investment, squeezing everyone's margins to a common point of disillusionment. |
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...and while not finding any resting place offering growth, still fooling both computer and man that hopes to find the world is infinite. |
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Are wild daily gyrations "the Twitter Effect" with the world's market chasers and followers flocking like birds finding no place to land? |
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Managing for growth results in taking on more complex tasks till the system doing it becomes unmanageable, so manage for response instead. |
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A system of ever growing complexity now naturally exceeding the limits of its own self regulation, as clearly described in 1979. |
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Market players driving turmoil to profit from it, not to share in what's profitable to others? Spoiling the game fun at first, then ugly. |
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"I'll Be Gone / You'll Be Gone" is financial manipulation, that naturally grows ever faster when that's what profitable investment is left. |
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The social contract becomes one sided, money goes into things, but only with guarantees to take more out, till it breaks the social order. |
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Investing money into things to take more out first stimulates then overtakes and destroys them. An infinite thing chasing a finite one. |
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The real cause is accumulated money accumulating more and more, bankrupting the cash economy. It irreversible when the bars begin to close. |
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So, one real way to fix the drain of money from the cash economy into finance is to print as much as 30 years of our wages to hand out. ;-) |
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What's the real difference between adding by units and adding in %'s? For flows in nature one can be a steady state, and the other can't. |
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@EarthUnSummit12 @artate - and... ALL our institutions designed to remain "stable" by multiplying in scale forever too... odd design, no? |
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Really Phil, you're forgetting the true reality is the epicycles for our theory, not the things of nature, if you know what's good for you. |
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@aleksj Trader's "hands on faces" seems GD endless! Must be the world in our brains isn't found in reality... synapse9.com/signals |
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"Reading Nature's Signals" for learning how to read the individual behaviors of the living systems of nature.google.com/reader/view/fe… |
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We built the fixed design of our society around taking two cookies from nature for every one we took before, like a mindless 2 year old. |
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The real crisis is how people think nature uses their own social network's theory, so can't read what her signals mean!synapse9.com/signals |
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A long infantile habit of taking two cookies for every one you took before... naturally leads to this (usual tragic bedlam). |
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With finance designed for everyone to take over the world at once, many find hoarding cash is their last refuge, and the world seizes up... |
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Keynes actually predicted this very kind of natural end-of-growth crisis, ever growing savings getting shrinking returns synapse9.com/blog/2010/04/0… |
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CapitalInstitute.com Synapse9.com. Poking our heads above the
waves! |
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Enough spending by those with excess savings averts world default when growth becomes unprofitable. (Keynes Chapter 16)synapse9.com/ref/KeynesGenT… |
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If enough spending by those with excess savings would both end growth and avert world default on it as debt, then what's their motive??? |
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Is it that we live in a physical world, not a
theoretical world, that all the theoretical arts
simply missed, just looking the other way??? |
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How did science not notice, that all the systems we see developing and operated from the inside, aren't controlled by forces from outside??? |
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The catch for mainstream science, for example, is how nature operates in cells working internally, so not ruled by what observers can see. |
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I am looking, but just don't find any stream of western culture that doesn't treat nature as its own theory... and they're all different. |
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@Revkin Friedman's "5 eroded pillars" (of perpetual growth), omits the need for rapidly depleting resources and the conflicts that causes. |
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Owning an ever growing share, of an ever more fictional pie, your value is still what you can sell it for, right?? But leads to panic... |
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The impression is our whole intellectual culture is profoundly blind or dishonest... as nearly everyone's theories treat nature as a theory. |
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In the end, money IS reality, no financial system is stable if those with savings just squeezed it for more, and don’t spend their earnings. |
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Love is all you need! ...except
figuring out why a world filled with so much of it is also so amazingly
ignorant of nature. |
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Learn words referring directly to
events and objects of nature, and for her meanings, separate from word uses
for our beliefs and values. |
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How money connects to reality is by
our using it for making requests for ever growing control of the earth, which
backfires at the limits. |
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The ideal economic
product, low cost, little thought needed, direct
access to the brain's pleasure centers... our consuming main activity! |
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Do we protect endangered species?
...or more our own dependency on the money, what actually causes the great
threat to nature and the earth? |
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Do we "save lives" or more
often just bodies? ...added to our list of credits, but rewarded with only
painful struggle and to die unnoticed. |
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@revkin - Well, looking for first causes, what's always done the most to keep
speeding up warming is "making money", the one whole cause. |
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Social networks drifting ever
further into their own social realities... Ever more urged by nature go the
other way! synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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Everyone says,
"Well my theory is..." as if that was all nature required to give
them a whole new reality. |
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All the paths for
escaping the house of self-love are so overgrown you can hardly see where
they are anymore. |
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Still... beats me how to get love to
be truthful. I'm just surrounded by intellectual cultures in love with
themselves and happy to be. |
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Putting money in to take more out, pumps
things up but then drains them dry, a fine boom-bust stewardship for our
lives. synapse9.com/issues/Reading… |
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@revkin ...
The MUCH bigger
problem is "leading experts" have long assumed we lived in a deterministic
world, only now finding out we don't. |
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Interesting that Teilhard de Chardin was the
genius McLuhan got his main ideas from... but never mentioned. Strange
intellects, ice on fire |
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That scientists counted
only ~1/5 of the energy demands of businesses (SEA) let environmentalists
make great errors.synapse9.com/SEA |
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Money multiplies for
people who manage money, not anyone else. That difference grows relentlessly
unless money earnings get spent. |
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MCluhan's "the medium is the message" seems to mean that in the
future every cultural network can look out from its own private bubble. |
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@mothernaturenet @revkin still not checking if "clean tech" comes from "dirty
money", the usual investment plan to take over all of nature. |
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how would one know whether "clean tech" came from "dirty
money" or not, the usual plot of investors to turn the whole earth into
products. |
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What if everyone
found a good use for everyone else's trash, like nature does, acting as her
partner instead of her worst problem. |
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What animates change in nature are explosions of
self-organization we see as "growth", but mysteriously it's not
even a subject of physics. |
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People "living
on the edge" are often kept there by aid that fails to change their
problem, only making it worse by trying to hide it. |
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Paper on 500%
adjustment in what energy uses to count, just awarded ASME prize for best
Energy Sustainability paper 2010synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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the problem with social networks is nature gets seen as their social
construct, even science, with language, as yet, defining everything. |
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mother nature also kindly reminds us, you better not address her as
"sir" either, if you want to get along... |
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nature is at a loss how to help her creation, that denies her physical
working parts, treating them like just a game of social appearances. |
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@aleksj One also needs to look at immigration as a series of great waves and
historic events.. synapse9.com/issues/USImmig… |
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Where do you find
the natural world?synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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There's nothing
wrong with the joys of our lives at all, but letting others use them to drive
the earth to exhaustion. |
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Would we find
reality more likely in things we can explain, or in things we are at a loss to
but nature does simply, like growth and change. |
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In demanding CO2 use
if we could smell the gas, we'd get a cubic meter blast for every single
dollar of GDP we spent.synapse9.com/design/dollars… |
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If growth is like
pregnancy, and creates something, limitless growth is a plan to exhaust all
resources before budgeting for child rearing. |
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@aleksj Growth as a "pulse" is more like pregnancy, you just can't stay
in it, and have REAL IMPORTANT things to do and care for then. |
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@aleksj Social media make belief culturally affirming... but observation not,
and so are biased against reading nature.synapse9.com/signals/ |
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@Revkin Environmentalists also impressively ignore the actual source of demand, that overpowers their own efforts to protect the
earth. |
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Environmentalists
Are Doing Impressive Fracking PR Work in New York -
Politics - The Atlantic Wire theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/… |
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So, what is the
"good reason" for our using all our expert systems to make live
better by a means that seems to destroy the earth? |
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So unexpected is
world resource demand exceed world supply, now we don't see it at it's happening. A defining moment:synapse9.com/pub/ASustInves… |
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Every time I point
out the little gaps, someone thinks I'm just showing them the myths need
patching, and promptly cover it up! ;-) |
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Trying to be a
member in good standing, of a culture blind to its own circumstance, makes
not seeing it a price of "good standing" |
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Our world doesn't
sit still, but is in turbulent motion, as we heat it up without knowing how. |
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Isn't the problem...
that belief is culturally affirming, and observation not, but questioning?
Then our cultures go blind and disconnect. |
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If population &
productivity growth raise demand and nature and conservation both are
decreasing supply, what relieves the growing conflict? |
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Moving to higher
ground to avoid being swept away by a flood is "socially
unacceptable" to people why don't want to get wet. |
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Foo Camp 6/10-12 in Sebastopol lanyrd.com/2011/foocamp/ via @lanyrd - Alex Jakulin
presenting my work - Anarchetype study for natural
systems |
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@Revkin @guardian Setting tougher targets for climate change won't reduce a bit the CO2
stimulus of economic growth still in them. |
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@Revkin Tempting, but denying the physical nature of nature won't make it a
malleable concept to change as we like. Reality has no escape. |
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@SustainOurEarth @addthis Speth's micro-managing of
the world ecology as a governmental service, won't
erase the limits of money, nope!! |
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@Revkin @USGS "Peak Planet" isn't a list of resources limits and workouts,
but a systemic collision between nature and man leaving no choice |
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@Revkin But Andy... Smil's "sustained push to
boost innovation" is the old core problem, as ever bigger risks with
nature, used for growth. |
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People's #productivity,
stiffening resolve & natural limits of supply, driving food and fuel
through the roof! synapse9.com/phpub.htm#113 |
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@STWR_ food prices double by 2030? Critical to see it's the drive for productivity
doing it - www.synapse9.com/pub/ASustInvestMoment-PH.pdf |
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The telling mental
gap that “Gapminder.org” graphically displayshttp://synapse9.com/blog/2011/05/30/the-telling-mental-gap-at-gapminderorg |
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The answer is in!
The #limit of #growth is much too
expensive!#Resource #markets switch from inviting
new users to defending their turf! |
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When's it more
profitable to invest in making your environment work than in inflating your
own wealth? In finance, simply never! :-/ |
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When is the point in #growth when it becomes more
profitable to invest in protecting and nurturing your environment than
expanding yourself? |
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@edyong209 @ken_homer - definitely, most
radical change we see coming we can keep denying till the day it arrives,
this just overwhelms |
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#Food crisis, WorldWatch links to fuel demand, making fertilizer from
natural gas too expensive..
synapse9.com/issues/PlanteChange11_03.pdf |
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Was it when our
guides chose to impress on us that nature's voice spoke in their words, not
in how to listen to her's, so very long ago?? |
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When the earth as a
whole calls out our name so clearly, and just as clearly unheard, I wonder when
it was we became so deaf to her song? |
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@Revkin Well, realistically, to have helped him you'd have had to stop and
give him a lift. It wasn't something 911 could really respond to. |
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@GreatConvergnce Duh... syNapse9?? It's about how nature connects things using narrow gaps to have
openings where the wilderness can enter. |
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@GreatConvergnce @dotearth But Gell-Mann trusts the theories of "whole system modelers"
but not the insights of whole system observers. Why? |
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All the signs from
our environment are "sharp turn ahead" but our culture says
"race ahead ever faster"... is THAT all in our heads too?? |
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The PROBLEM, is we just have not tried enough wild schemes to
get unsustainable growth to continue! That's all it is! |
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I liked a YouTube
video -- Ra Ra Riot - Can You Tell (A Cappella)http://youtu.be/lH91YsaBkVI?a |
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nice art, both kinds! ;-) (YouTube http://youtu.be/lH91YsaBkVI?a) |
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@TEEB4ME But... "invest 2% GDP" still also
multiplies the main problem, ever increasing addiction to depleting resources
of all kinds! |
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If nature isn't
responding to us, and both government and business misunderstand, do
"the people" need to tell her what to do instead? |
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Do "facts that
don't fit" have their own drawer in your mind? Or does it only prevent
clutter to quickly erase them? |
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The debate over who
should take charge over nature, the "government" or
"business", seems to be wasting our time.. |
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Where "the
facts are easy but the memes are hard" is *exactly* where to look for
the new questions and new paths we need to understand. |
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why we don't accept that efficiency always multiplied consumption? ...
the facts are easy and the memes are hard |
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Was it
constitutional for an abdicating president of Egypt to dismiss the
constitution, and give the country to the military?? Sounds odd. |
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Well, if #Egypt was worried about it's tourist business..., They
have no worries now! What a great place to visit it's now become. |
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#Egypt, "putting something on
paper" need not be much, just a wonderfully clear statement of the path
and goal and commitment |
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#Egypt needs to put
something on paper!! Just love and solidarity in the streets... is nothing to
build on, and not sustainable. |
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More delay in Egypt
getting back to life as usual... You'd think the business community would
explain.. free markets need
free people. |
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#Grist - who's keeping
their heads??http://www.grist.org/article/2011-02-09-smackdown-climate-science-vs-climate-economics#c745923 |
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Egypt |
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Why does the
"roadmap" for Egypt have no destination but silencing the
protest...? |
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Egypt is planning on
killing its people to save it's dictator's honor... Grand purpose... bu will it work? No, of course not. |
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I liked a YouTube
video -- The Life and Times of Louis I. Kahn 2007http://youtu.be/SHB0SSj-1k4?a |
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what most people seem to learn from thinking is that observation is
unimportant... |
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"A New Year’s
wish, the true celebration" - last 7 tweets fromhttp://synapse9.com/blog/2010/12/30/a-new-years-wish-the-true-celebration/ |
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It's asking too
much, to expect what you can ask the world to do for you to multiply without
end, denying your connection to life. |
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It's real simple,
nature's energy budget just doesn't allow for one system to take for itself
ever more of the energy needed by others. |
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Cultural reasoning
is not like science, picking the answers it likes, ignoring the rest, rather
than looking for questions with answers. |
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the IPCC then pointed out we won't even have an planet we'd recognize as
earth to return to, if we don't respond, ignored all but entirely. |
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Keynes pointed out
that when natural limits come money has to stop multiplying too, Meadows to
how it's happening and very dangerous |
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Malthus pointed out
that with unlimited demand the food runs out, and Jevons that being efficient
makes that happen sooner. |
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Seeing the worth of
money as tokens, denies how it connects you to life, each as one equal share
of all you can ask the world to do for you. |
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ain't it the shits... to live up to someone
else's ideals and find out they didn't give a shit?? |
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I liked a YouTube
video -- White Noise http://youtu.be/8hI5Rs-VXQE?a |
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What #wandering #minds need to know... (we're ALL kind of "out of the loop")
www.synapse9.com/issues/WanderingMinds.htm |
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could the internet be destroying #knowledge... not converging toward anything
but becoming turbulence to destroy every direction? |
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The #GHG #trend... improving efficiency *HAS NO
EFFECT* on reducing share of fossil fuel use www.synapse9.com/blog/2010/12/04/dollarshadow/ |
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The most accurate
available measure of anything's #global #impacts is its share of #GDP as a share of the
world's total, #dollarshadow.htm |
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#CharlieRangle I don't think it reflects on you Charlie, but panicky people grasping
for straws. Don't be bitter, they need your help! |
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@Revkin Why have plans to stop #climate change paid for by
continually growing energy use, with growing impacts to be all #unsustainable? |
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100% #renewable?http://www.climatespectator.com.au/commentary/renewable-energy-baseload-power-David-Mills-solar-wind |
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For Thanksgiving, a
little tale of surprising bounty that changes meaning every yearhttp://www.synapse9.com/issues/PeakZucchini.pdf :-) |
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@revkin Who "owns" the resulting CO2 is THE PURCHASER of the service
it provided... That's the physics, the economics
might as well follow. |
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But why???... are we
still nearly all reducing only the rate of accelerating increases in our
impacts, and just calling it #"efficient"?? |
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The Capital Institute, seems significantly different, clear as the
greens but going further on the risk of not preserving natural capital. |
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what they once
called the "widow's cruse" turns out instead to be a a "youthful world's #challenge", not at ALL the end |
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If you owe someone #money, then they owe it to you to put it back
into the world you got if from, a delightful real
law of balance! |
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Isn't it #rude, when so many trusted voices of the
past decide to become just voices of the past, and you have to move on? |
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Sounds good Leland,
good to talk. (YouTubehttp://youtu.be/L1bWNgJnjuQ?a) |
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People are getting
it! search [site:synapse9.com] my great old writings are coming up |
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"Models
Learning Change" now in Cosmos & History - Natural science for
adaptive modeling, for #growth & #changehttp://synapse9.com/blog/ |
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@sky_pointer @Revkin It's to preserve positive net earnings that investors would spend
them, to not drive net earnings toward zero, as now. |
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What if I were in
power, what would I change?http://synapse9.com/blog/2010/11/12/what-if-i-were-in-power-what-would-i-change/ |
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But how do we reduce
our economic footprint?http://synapse9.com/blog/2010/11/12/but-how-do-we-reduce-our-economic-footprint/ |
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The Story of
"Missing Stuff"http://synapse9.com/blog/2010/11/12/the-story-of-the-missing-stuff/ |
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So... why in the
WORLD do world thinkers fail to menTion the small discrepan... (YouTube http://youtu.be/Zam9DZ43Cl0?a) |
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You can't just tape
up the holes to keep the #bubble's from #bursting(it's
essential to turn down the pumps working to #inflate them too). |
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#Formulas tell of pushes and
pulls on fixed #connections, but #nature the stories of
fitting opposite shapes and chances of new connection. |
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I joined FOUR YEARS.
GO. #4YG. I will pay close attention to how my
money keeps churning my whole world. http://...http://rpx.me/wLU |
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Directions of
progress, without a real objective, are plans to push the limits and be
stopped by only failing to respond to things ignored. |
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Or..What
say we... learn to control ever more #complicatedsystems and then give them ever less thoughtful people???
<:-o <:-o |
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What say we... learn
to control ever more #complicated systems and then
give them ever less thought? <:-o |
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Talk of achieving
"Singularity" begs one ask Which one? ..reducing
thought to singularities or our control of nature, or is that the same? |
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You can't keep a #growth system that doesn't
work as a whole, so even if enticing, #money that promises to
ever multiply won't be kept. |
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To #economists, resource
substitution is defined as free, as if hunter-gatherers still using cut &
run as our theory of #nature! |
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@drgrist #"kicking ass" gets harder if the real fault is with our
love of productivity, having ever greater impacts with ever less effort. |
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We know the appeal
of how machine-like nature is, but we seem caught quite off guard not having taken
interest in how very lively too. |
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I guess if we're
running out of cheap stuff, we'll need to get our stuff elsewhere, if there
still is some place "elsewhere" |
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Maximum growth &
profit go to those who skim and run, so IBG-YBG has been our world economic policy
forever. Hunter-gatherers started it! |
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#CO2 allowance = ~5
years. Cheap #oil supply = ~ 5 to 10
years. Plan to #grow as fast as possible
to keep economy stable forever. What????? |
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Our natural (mental) #limits destabilized our economy,
letting us choose faster resource depletion to stabilize #growth, in the 1950's. |
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I makes us seem like
blind #slaves to ideology to not
question "be fruitful and multiply" even when it's clearly no
longer #fruitful. |
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Obama asks why BP
didn't think through the #consequences of feeding an #economy that must always multiply
it's consumption to remain stable! |
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Everyone knows
physical systems all have breaking points, right? (and
theories often don't)... but if #theory is our reality, what
then? |
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@drgrist "Interesting Obama never mentioned...climate" or that growth
requires ever more use of cheapest energy, oil till it runs out too! |
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BEST invention ever,
my solar powered bank account recharger, just put it on your window sill and
watch your money multiply, *guaranteed*! |
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what makes things "blow up" seems, to
often be the wall you erect to "keep things from blowing up", that
would otherwise "blow over". |
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Given the growing
conflicts, business can't make a profit without taking short cuts, so the
have to ever more to just stay in business. |
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@STWR_ spending a trillion, seeming to be mostly for retribution, really shows
just how cheap we really are! |
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Does it escape our
attention?... that solutions making things more #complex, makes them easier to misunderstand
and harder to change? |
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What about the
spectrum of growing #risks of #growth that are completely natural, and NOT caused by human error?? |
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The #obligation to help people, who make such a big show of being #helpless, stops where it does more harm, or
just isn't fun. |
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Solutions that
multiply, and hide ever more unrecognized risks, ..are,
well "perfect", giving you nothing at all to worry about. |
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BP #unprepared? Simple #economics limits preparation for ever wider harm of ever bigger things going
wrong, a natural limit of #growth. |
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What you say makes
sense to you but none to me... so we both mush be! |
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What's #real or #imagined isn't possible to
tell, except from the gaps in what you think that keep sending you back to
the source. |
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Pink Floyd walks
into a bar saying "I don't need no thought control", the bartender
says "I'll buy that!", so now they're both fat cats! |
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Why can't nature
just leave our perfect theories alone!! ... always
mucking things up by changing the world around them! |
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is there ANYTHING different between alternating and escalating effects
other than the good intentions that may or not be behind them?? |
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Sustainability is
generally measured as if the head on a beer, the less head the less beer...
right? See it clear from a distance, no prob! |
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long vigorous and resilient, reached an unprecedented peak and then
literally collapsed... |
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we regulate economies like a #casino, for players guaranteed to win their
bets and encouraged to pile their winnings on their bets... Smart! |
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Can't change the
past?? Isn't the future just one revisionist history after another,
constantly changing the meaning of the past? #change |
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So, how did we get
here, unable to tell if there are any independent realities, or just
culturally preferred ones? What's that for? |
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Risk of a further
physical system collapse. #growth #criseswww.synapse9.com/blog |
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Is DNA a cell's
molecular "software" or is it the "memory"?? Isn't the #LIFE of the cell what
reads DNA as what worked before, and adapts? |
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@Revkin 'Strong reason to believe' terrorists plotting U.S. strike?? ..Or is
it that from our #growth being a growing
attack on nature? |
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I think Venter's
"big discovery" is risky, but not so. Evolution works ONLY by addition,
and so would not have a logic for us to screw up. |
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In a time of change,
to find the smell of what will work next, smell the new roses too. |
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If the earth were a
social system then nature would listen to government policy too! #growth |
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If the earth were a social
system cheer leading for sustainability helps, and stimulating growth to call
it constraint positive too. #growth |
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Complexity - What is
it? It's what nature does so very simply we can't fathom it, usually lots of
disconnected parts acting as a whole. |
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Evidently streamlining growth to work better, accelerates both its resource uses and impacts, and is what technology always did.#growth |
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You know there's a physical
world, 'cause any time you like you can step right on it! |
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Yep, "smart", but
just not paying attention. @ninacaplan That's the Malthusian
argument, isn't it... |
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@shoudaknown |
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If you increase your steps
by ever bigger steps, you get to ... overstepping! Wow, who'd a thunk it? |
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growth = steadily larger
problems ending in ever fewer resources to solve them with. |
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maturation = steadily
smaller problems and steady resources for solving them. |
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In the age of free
information, good information get *just* affordable! |
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the part we connect, the
part we have to wait for that relies on our environment's response. |
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intimately knowing your
limits, seems to greatly expand them... |
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No matter what language you
write it in, people invariably read it in their own |
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The real energy problem is
our society’s model of ever increasing overhead costs. |
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setting up twitter, points
of elasticity, wondering how to stretch |