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8/27/11
P. F.
Henshaw - The blog Reading Nature’s Signals Research archive Synapse9.com,
some related series of tweets grouped by color
some important systems principles highlighted
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...and then also that every new situation would seem to require 'downloading' new software from someplace... |
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Maybe the problem with determinism is the needed rules for the software having to be much more complex than the hardware. |
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@aleksj -Related to fall off in use of words "growth" and "complex"? See Google ngram. |
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So science can't have determined all causes are external, if internal causes occur but information on how is naturally hidden from our view. |
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You see organisms, storms, cultures, technologies, movements, etc, animated by bursts of change internally, for no apparent outside cause. |
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An important observation is how clearly the way nature organizes things remains hidden inside the things she organizes, out of our view. |
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@STWR_ Sure, speculation can drive up prices... but the actionable cause is they only can when demand exceeds supply.synapse9.com/pub/ASustInves… |
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@Revkin - Brooks' blames our "inability to think about the economy in a realistic way"...the irony is EVERYONE else is saying that too!! ;-) |
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@politifact What's the truth to the endlessly repeated claim that how we've changed the earth only expands our potential for more growth? |
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... it's our social belief and value systems that substitute for nature, when based on the social responses we get not curiosity and reason. |
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Is it natural for people to say nature works so differently than it does? Yes, quite. It's more effort to base ideas on what you observe. |
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That systems in nature work that way, bursting in scale from a seed, to survive only by stopping, can't have been studied by our ancestors. |
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So, at the end of the run for "Be fruitful and multiply." the practice that was so fruitful becomes completely unmanageable, unless stopped. |
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So it's really investors (us) that demand to have regulators, banks, science & markets multiply our investments till becoming unmanageable. |
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The joke is that why democracies are failing is the same reason dictatorships are too, ever growing solutions that create hopeless problems. |
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So the real reason democracy is failing is that finance multiplied solutions into completely unmanageable problems. |
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Planting your seed to keep multiplying your seed, the way finance works, brings exceptional bounty sure to end in exceptional tragedy. |
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The real fault isn't with regulators or banks, but 'mad' investors demanding a stability for ever multiplying returns that won't go bankrupt. |
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It's not the buildings that sustained us before making us unsustainable now. It's our scale, and money driving it to increase ever faster. |
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That's the escape, from seeing our cultures as reality and keeping the old rules as we changed the earth, bring in new meaning from outside. |
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So.. it really is NOT a problem of fulfilling our high cultural values, but looking outside our cultures for guidance on new higher values. |
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Our cultures and theories for growth formed when we were tiny and the earth seemed infinite, now the earth's reality reversed but not ours. |
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Very curious denial, of clearly shrinking resources and growing world demand, fiduciaries all agree our best interest is in rapid growth. |
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Is the problem of investors today getting returns on the seeds they plant, to then plant more, or managing the explosions of consequences? |
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... and in the news, little but bombs, disasters and crises, while the explosions of new relationships in nature and culture go ignored. |
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...instead, having missed the turn we're still planting our seed to multiply our seeds till our entire crop wilts, ...the bitter end again. |
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Like, if finding a way to comfortably end growth was in the 1910 plan for our national parks, the good turning point would have been ~1950. |
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Going till you get to the end of the road often means you missed your turn... |
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@Revkin Causality at stake?? If you read science as saying nature follows our formulas, caisality never even had a place, only prediction. |
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Asking "If prediction isn't causation, what is??" can be a VERY good question, giving much more useful answers, like choices along the way. |
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As economies require profit for resilience or growth, warriors would see an endless use for growth as preparing for the wars it leads to. |
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The Bible displays our most ancient of recorded world views, authoritarian in its foundation, no hint of life as an ecology of partnerships. |
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Our authoritarian approach to life could come from "be fruitful and multiply" naturally causing mortal environmental conflict at its limit. |
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It's the obvious connection between money and nature, that we use money to request service from people using nature, still being overlooked. |
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Yes, it also means that what you put in the plastic bag would typically have over 1000 times the impact as the plastic of the bag. |
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e.g. As SEA proves energy use largely comes from human services, not technology, our plans need total rethinking. synapse9.com/SEA |
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So, prospering by using up life's necessities ever faster is "OK", if as it seems, it doesn't alter your social relationships. |
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So, why would dramatic and easily confirmed facts get no response? In our culture the physical world, by itself, has no social meaning. |
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So, if we use money to measure "externalities", i.e. providing physical goods and services, what then is the limit of adding money by %'s ?? |
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The choice is to find how the images in our minds are unlike the world we live in, telling concepts and theories from partnerships in life. |
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Using profits to multiply demand till the system collapses... is optional. |
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Honoring the ever growing demands of money pushes life to madness, only repeating our ancient fall from grace. It's a total waste of time. |
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Pushing growing demand till your world collapses is a betrayal of one's maker, one's ancestors, ones own whole history of creative struggle. |
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The curious problem with pushing financial demands to the collapse of a finance system, again and again, is it serves nothing but madness. |
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Most struggle to find concepts for how nature works eventful things so simply, and scientists to find anything eventful in their concepts. |
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...but why doesn't it get discussed that the need to deliver growing returns from shrinking recourses blocks every real solution?? |
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Systems that end in crises get there by having a pump of growing demands in the loop, and are relieved by turning it down or off. |
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With all these mounting crises one would think people would take an interest in what systems naturally end in crisis and their relief. |
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@Revkin @grist There is also large collateral damage from people still not discussing of individual emerging systems that make life lively. |
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So, that would mean "Question your knowledge" isn't enough, and needs to start with "Question your culture". |
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So, it might seem our culture is based on our knowledge, but looking around, only the reverse would put us in such strange deep trouble. |
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@@Revkin ... So that's confirming with a reasonable cause the decade scale cycle I said would lead to this wave of denialism, ~20 years ago. |
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So yes, it seems something surely needs to be cut, but can we tell which of natures parts is our umbilical cord and which is our throat? |
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Because forming a circle of relationships is the first definite step if new identity, a structure required for and capable of growth. |
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It's the circles of relationships in nature you watch for, by how they show their own connected behaviors, forming whole individual systems. |
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Ever growing expectations are unreal, that's all. It makes being faithful to them the problem, not the solution. |
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The brains in finance are just dropping the ball, not even studying what causes their expectation to inflate and assure cascading collapse. |
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People think Keynes was an total optimist, willing to bet on it. Actually he faced the darkness, and saw through it. synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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It's just incorrect to equate "making money" by growing your own drain of credit from other things, with "making wealth" for the economy. |
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It comes from thinking of nature as made for our social rules, and planting seed only to multiply the seed, as if nature could handle it. |
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Finance is in such trouble from traders trading for their own accounts, putting money in to take ever more out, that can't last naturally. |
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Why money pumps things up to just drain them dry, at the limit the still growing savings of some comes from draining the savings of others. |
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Does reaching for infinity become practical, by just committing to keep up with the ever bigger steps till they're out of reach? |
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When a system is already overbuilt, it's a still greater waste to continue overbuilding it. So when do we start asking how rather than why? |
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Their hiding place? In plain sight, never in our information but only internal to their own circles of organization, hidden from our view. |
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And science has **not even begun** to study the systems of nature that so handily take care of themselves,... no clue where they are even. |
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So, it seems the conceptual realities are irresolvable, even hard to make any sense of, having found no grip on the physical ones yet. |
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The bond markets keep telling us what to do so they can have systematically multiplying savings, and the intellectuals keep wondering why. |
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It's so easy to catch yourself blaming the surfer for the wave, like the ultra rich for leading a society with dreams so certain to fail. |
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@@cjeder Well, except the usual effect of efficiency is increasing energy uses 2.5 times the amount of saved... making each more profitable. |
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So, my natural systems science locates nature's hidden circles for studying their emerging behaviors, lights shining into that blind spot. |
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Or, is nature is better seen as a "wicked gossip", keeping her secrets to the circles that invent them so well, we're just quite unaware? |
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@cjeder but... IF you add the 8000btu/$ of human services needed to operate the airline and the cars, both should go up more than 100%. |
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Is it a self-betrayal?? ...to avoid discussing what practical ways exist to stop money from piling up, uncontrollably, to topple our world? |
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It's not our social values causing nature trouble and to misbehave, as she listens ONLY to our procedures, we may not see, and nothing else. |
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@donmacca @guardian @pdenlinger ... Of course, Google's GHG no. will be off from reality by a scale of 5 due to method.synapse9.com/SEA |
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It would be so nice if nature could understand the language of our social policies, and didn't only listen when we're speaking hers. |
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@Revkin @TreeHugger The Onion misses the deeper reason. Growth and climate change have to keep accelerating to pay for slowing them down! |
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@ezraklein What the economy needs is not to be "goosed" again, nor to "let it rip". Those are just beating up on an very overworked world. |
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@postgrowth @adbusters @donmacca Yes, the wave is ready to break, but the grass roots still aren't on it! Nature isn't run by social policy. |
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@Revkin Isn't the real answer that slowing down radiation speeds up convection EVERYWHERE?? Let's teach people to think scientifically! |
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Free will isn't of much use without clear vision, is it. But we just don't yet see our habit of adding %'s as what's exploding our planet. |
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The other "Why??" is less simple. Why no one notices is that most see nature as behaving according to our culture wars, and not by herself. |
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The useful full answer to "Why??" is simple. Why it gets bigger and changing faster than we can manage is our always adding to it by %'s. |
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Money takes over our lives because it's designed to; to use its control to add to its control, by %'s forever, men out planting their seeds! |
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Hard science in the media? When in doubt, just hold the social status of the noise makers responsible for all natural events. |
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@postgrowth Perhaps the much stronger force of social isolation due to growth is social networks forming their own realities in isolation. |
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@GreatConvergnce @genesharpfilm .. One can't start a revolution without truth. Without limits to money we're just apologists and stooges. |
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@postgrowth "Positive Money" still missing **the one thing** that has to change, the endless growth rule of investment.positivemoney.org.uk/take-action/sp… |
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@EarthUnSummit12 @wecanada Why does every "earth summit" seem to recommit us to paying for externalities with multiplying externalities??? |
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@sergirovira @felixdodds - The future IS an achievement, and "S" curves of development reflect the nature of its construction, not numbers. |
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Nature does love our making her pregnant, but she has us pay quite dearly for doing it more and more, while never budgeting for child care. |
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What would float the jobs is only one thing, for the wealthy to spend money to give people earnings, not lend it to raise their debts. |
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A matter of scale, the men planting their seed in nature, for a growing harvest of planting ever more seed, till nature just can't take it. |
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@postgrowth Alternative economies are great niche solutions but won't fix a money system running amuck... you need Keynes' lasting solution. |
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@RBReich - But if what hurt the middle class is "the earth is full", how to slow down not speeding up is what'll help.synapse9.com/signals |
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Maybe... "equal time" should just apply to personal expression, and applied to sound science treats science as just opinion, not discovery. |
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S.O.S. S.O.S. The ship will sink if the wealthy don't spend enough money to permanently relieve everyone of excess debt. Hoarding adds up. |
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@Revkin @chrishughes @jumoconnect @GOOD - but what is slowing pace of change is NOT getting the word out, but confusion & misdirection. |
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@ScienceChanges Development begins with a burst of new relationships, processes scaling up to satisfy the energy continuity of development. |
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So you really wonder how our culture doesn't notice the little explosions of new relationships at the start of everything that happens. |
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Little bang theory... where it all begins! Every beginning built with a little burst of new relationships. |
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To have energy continuity requires process continuity, and innovation to be a little bang of construction at the beginning of all events. |
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Change isn't pressure or noise, but needs "mutation" to be a construction process, a burst of new relationships emerging, innovation. |
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@postgrowth yes, EF is a well constructed measure, but a small part of total demand, like missing ever growing demands on our talents too. |
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@aleksj Well, what's replacing commuting with communicating also splits the economy into unequal upward and downwardly mobile parts!! |
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@postgrowth @paulgilding @Freemoneyday ...but the ONLY effective anti shopping campaign is an anti earning campaign, at ~8000btu/$GDP! |
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Only one first time for anything,... unless you consider everything to be a first time for everything, life as information or a process! |
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Perception is a stream of snap judgments, rarely pausing to ask dumb questions, like why does giving money to money no longer pays us back. |
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@STWR_ In 5 min on the US debt, left out is the dilemma that paying debt doesn't produce spending, but debt upon debt to bankrupt the world. |
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..the main problem with natural systems, of course, is how they work inside is quite hidden from view, only hinted by external behavior, |
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So, we keep trying to fix our worlds of social relations, with no idea how or why our worlds of physical systems around us keep changing. |
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So, we keep trying to fix our social concept worlds, paying no attention at all to how and why the physical one is changing. |
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What we see in our minds is our own world of internal social relationships, that we confuse with the ones our world works or fails by. |
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@postgrowth - fine personal lives, but "simple life" won't alter "critical breakdowns in world systems". Want to live well in a corpse? |
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Common finding?... my "How natural system bankruptcy works" & Colin Campbell's "Seneca effect" synapse9.com/signals/2011/0…cassandralegacy.blogspot.com/2011/08/seneca… |
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@TEEB4ME Circular economy MUST include circular money - concept J.M. Keynes, Chapter 16, The General Theory -synapse9.com/ref/KeynesGenT… |
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Engineers err on the side of caution when taking on greater challenges, but for economists caution is to add them by %'s... |
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With our having such an ethic of kindness, it's evidently our ignorance that makes us behave so extraordinarily cruel. |
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At the limits of healthy growth stronger parts can keep growing by consuming the economic resources of the weak, even as the total shrinks. |
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Why does economic growth become cannibalistic? It's our rules for managing our savings, the same as for cancer, only invest to expand. |
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Why does economic growth become cannibalistic? It's our rules for using money to make money. They ask investment managers to do it. |
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Why does economic growth become cannibalistic at its limits? The strong then can only grow by consuming the (market share of the) weak. |
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@climate_diplo @KHayhoe ..."How to talk to climate skeptics"? Boy, I wish I could get past the confused fixations of climate believers! |
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#sustdev and 'green design' equally neglect the large and diverse resource demands made by ANY spending of money.synapse9.com/SEA |
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@donmacca Maclurcan offers nice images, yes, but should work with me to get them to work in nature. Nature doesn't follow social policy... |
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@pwjohnson @EarthUnSummit12 @Revkin Both #sustdev and "green economy" ignore the outsourced impacts of money, so not much different at all. |
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#irene 8:00AM No branches down anywhere in Ft Tryon park, but one, oddly broken in 8 pieces as if smashed to bits by force. |
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Two great waves of immigration, one when finding room & ways to grow, the other as growth created conflicts, different.synapse9.com/issues/Immigra… |
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If it seems the "social cost of CO2" is closer to $900/ton, the real cost per $GDP is then $0.41 scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id… synapse9.com/SEA |
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@EarthUnSummit12 @Revkin @pwjohnson - #sustainable is false really, reality SO different, just reducing visible impacts to grow hidden ones. |
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@EarthUnSummit12 @Revkin @pwjohnson - #susdev OK except 90% is usual devl. with new name & old outsourced energy use. synapse9.com/SEA/ |
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@Revkin ..but Hansen is still proposing we pay for the climate mitigation by consuming all other economic resources ever faster...! |
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Using money to just squeeze the world for more money, isn't nurturing the earth. It's our men, obsessed with empty symbols and going mad. |
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It's an internal choice to respond, not a rule or external force. Is that what's confusing? A time to take in and a time to release it... |
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It's an investment system that reinvests its profits as it becomes over-investing, like we are... that drives itself into total bankruptcy. |
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0ne thing any development system in nature needs to do is reinvest it's profits to grow and divest them to mature and survive. |
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I solved the physics problem 30 years ago, to find Keynes had solved it 50 years before me, what nature needs us to do at growth limits. |
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@Revkin We'd respond as if to a hurricane, if we spent 1/10 the effort on the changing rates of using and finding affordable resources. |
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@donmacca Economies are only slightly responsive to social policy, and not if money opposes. It ALL rests on relieving money's need to grow |
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If the deep problem is world resource demand increasing faster than supply... to restore growing demand to solve it will just make it worse! |
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Our most depleted resource is our ability to find more resources to deplete, long just assumed infinite, but actually not hard to check. |
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@TEEB4ME How about someone studying how economies work as ecologies?????? That's the real subject we owe 5000 years of back homework on. |
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@TEEB4ME ..Please, When growth becomes unprofitable for the whole, every part is at real risk. To divest not invest profits saves the day. |
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Keynes first talked about the obvious solution for 20 years, then Boulding for 40, then me for 30+. It's still the one way systems survive. |
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A friend says I should find a cartoonist or animator to help me illustrate the living world I see. |
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As the world gets more complex and less manageable it needs more resources, and progressive depletion allows less.synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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Is the film in the camera the environment seen in the picture? Does it work by the relationships observers see, as most science relies on? |
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Does the organization of how things work ever change from anywhere other than the inside, largely out of view largely by observers? |
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Looking at the world, do the things you see work by the relationships YOU see?... or does each have a world with a heart beat of its own? |
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Nature thought a little birthday party would be nice, a way to begin. But nobody came. So she just relaxed and watched the grass grow. |
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Say YES to great symbolic statements...Tell Obama to Say NO to Tar Sands. Pls RT act.350.org/sign/tar-sands/ ...and go much further yourself. |
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It's a natural system bankruptcy, EROI < 1, ever growing demand exceeding supply, shedding failing parts til it weakens the whole like Rome. |
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We finally overcame nature, the dumb way... but by rejecting her from our social realities, a harrowing partner rejection to come. |
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Our words became ungrounded and lost their real meanings because of our cultural choice to not accept nature in our social realities. |
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Even the IPCC calls for ever growing resource depletion to pay for climate mitigation... Yea, that'll work great! natural system bankruptcy |
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@donmacca Not one confronts needing to end ever growing profits. The physical world requires, the social world denies.synapse9.com/signals |
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@postgrowth - It's wrong to say "We are ecological accountants" like EF does, overlooking outsourced impacts of money.synapse9.com/SEA |
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I think the only reasonable conclusion is that somehow all our metaphors got broke, and just don't connect anymore. |
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@Revkin Rick Perry may be mad... just as divorced from reality as our world plan to sustain prosperity with ever faster resource depletion. |
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Maybe it's that so many people are trying to get a word in edgewise, practically one actually gets a chance to say anything... |
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Sparks originate opportunistically, storms originate opportunistically, phase changes originate opportunistically... |
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How come learning broke down, and everyone became an ego universalist??? |
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It seems there needs to be an opportunistic event for beginning any deterministic process. |
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In nature, growth is NOT a number on a sliding scale. It's a construction project for making something lasting and succeeds, or it fails. |
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Finding someone else's pocket to pick doesn't tell you why everyone is getting so desperate to find someone else's pocket to pick... |
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I might not have noticed... but for being offended by how men keep screwing nature just to create bigger screw guns, with no other purpose. |
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Money is actually pumped from the earth, in the form of delivered goods and services, and *that's* why it can't keep multiplying any more. |
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"More" is a terrible purpose to keep for centuries, even "saving lives" then creates diseases, bad genes & incompetence nature wouldn't. |
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@aleksj But what if information is now interpreted from invented social realities, ever more divorced from the common complex real world. |
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Look at the world consensus economic policy, more growth to use depleting resources and create externalities to not respond to ever faster. |
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Go outside your familiar network... |
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It seems an information age naturally leaves you trying to run the world with culture wars, each viewing it from its own reality. |
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It's also progress that exhausts *affordable* resources ever faster... so high overhead economies that get hit hardest. |
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Whose job is that anyway, dealing with a world psychosis... like belief in prosperity assured by using up shrinking resources ever faster? |
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Hunter/gatherers took from nature to use and work on at home, but then some used their takes to only multiply, and stopped bringing it home. |
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In real science, theory is the question, and the study of nature is always the answer. |
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@postgrowth @Freemoneyday @VenessaMiemis 13 books... that still don't fix the way we use money to grow investments...synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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@postgrowth @degrowth "co-creating no growth world" also adds to wonder about why economic "crazies" seem ALL around.synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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@STWR_ @yesmagazine "Resilient Economy" adds to wonder about why economic "crazies" seem ALL around.synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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Even life saving is limited by promoting genes and incompetence nature would have eliminated, needing a greater purpose than just "more". |
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Growth always continues till it eliminates the conditions for growth, a change in rules like your birth getting you evicted from the womb. |
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Now... if anyone would connect that with our driving money the opposite way.. we'd be getting places. thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/08/0… |
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Arctic sea ice trend.. very graphically displayed...thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/08/0… |
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Why do politicians all agree on our wasting our effort getting back to using things up ever faster to remain prosperous?? Won't work. |
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You know, like some days it's just time to listen to your own body, as it's got things to say to you? The earth's our body, listen. |
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Natural systems grow in their own bubbles, as self-defined networks growing from a seed, emerging in a burst of self-organization. |
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When it comes down to it, the people who have difficulty acknowledging error are the ones who are just not curious about the real world. |
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What kills confidence more than anything else is endless over-investment, squeezing everyone's margins to a common point of disillusionment. |
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...and while not finding any resting place offering growth, still fooling both computer and man that hopes to find the world is infinite. |
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Are wild daily gyrations "the Twitter Effect" with the world's market chasers and followers flocking like birds finding no place to land? |
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Managing for growth results in taking on more complex tasks till the system doing it becomes unmanageable, so manage for response instead. |
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A system of ever growing complexity now naturally exceeding the limits of its own self regulation, as clearly described in 1979. |
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Market players driving turmoil to profit from it, not to share in what's profitable to others? Spoiling the game fun at first, then ugly. |
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"I'll Be Gone / You'll Be Gone" is financial manipulation, that naturally grows ever faster when that's what profitable investment is left. |
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The social contract becomes one sided, money goes into things, but only with guarantees to take more out, till it breaks the social order. |
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Investing money into things to take more out first stimulates then overtakes and destroys them. An infinite thing chasing a finite one. |
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The real cause is accumulated money accumulating more and more, bankrupting the cash economy. It irreversible when the bars begin to close. |
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So, one real way to fix the drain of money from the cash economy into finance is to print as much as 30 years of our wages to hand out. ;-) |
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What's the real difference between adding by units and adding in %'s? For flows in nature one can be a steady state, and the other can't. |
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@EarthUnSummit12 @artate - and... ALL our institutions designed to remain "stable" by multiplying in scale forever too... odd design, no? |
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Really Phil, you're forgetting the true reality is the epicycles for our theory, not the things of nature, if you know what's good for you. |
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@aleksj Trader's "hands on faces" seems GD endless! Must be the world in our brains isn't found in reality... synapse9.com/signals |
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"Reading Nature's Signals" for learning how to read the individual behaviors of the living systems of nature.google.com/reader/view/fe… |
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We built the fixed design of our society around taking two cookies from nature for every one we took before, like a mindless 2 year old. |
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The real crisis is how people think nature uses their own social network's theory, so can't read what her signals mean!synapse9.com/signals |
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A long infantile habit of taking two cookies for every one you took before... naturally leads to this (usual tragic bedlam). |
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With finance designed for everyone to take over the world at once, many find hoarding cash is their last refuge, and the world seizes up... |
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Keynes actually predicted this very kind of natural end-of-growth crisis, ever growing savings getting shrinking returns synapse9.com/blog/2010/04/0… |
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CapitalInstitute.com Synapse9.com. Poking our heads above the waves! |
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Enough spending by those with excess savings averts world default when growth becomes unprofitable. (Keynes Chapter 16)synapse9.com/ref/KeynesGenT… |
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If enough spending by those with excess savings would both end growth and avert world default on it as debt, then what's their motive??? |
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Is it that we live in a physical world, not a theoretical world, that all the theoretical arts simply missed, just looking the other way??? |
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How did science not notice, that all the systems we see developing and operated from the inside, aren't controlled by forces from outside??? |
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The catch for mainstream science, for example, is how nature operates in cells working internally, so not ruled by what observers can see. |
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I am looking, but just don't find any stream of western culture that doesn't treat nature as its own theory... and they're all different. |
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@Revkin Friedman's "5 eroded pillars" (of perpetual growth), omits the need for rapidly depleting resources and the conflicts that causes. |
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Owning an ever growing share, of an ever more fictional pie, your value is still what you can sell it for, right?? But leads to panic... |
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The impression is our whole intellectual culture is profoundly blind or dishonest... as nearly everyone's theories treat nature as a theory. |
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In the end, money IS reality, no financial system is stable if those with savings just squeezed it for more, and don’t spend their earnings. |
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Love is all you need! ...except
figuring out why a world filled with so much of it is also so amazingly
ignorant of nature. |
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Learn words referring directly to
events and objects of nature, and for her meanings, separate from word uses
for our beliefs and values. |
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How money connects to reality is by
our using it for making requests for ever growing control of the earth, which
backfires at the limits. |
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The ideal economic
product, low cost, little thought needed, direct access to the brain's
pleasure centers... our consuming main activity! |
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Do we protect endangered species?
...or more our own dependency on the money, what actually causes the great
threat to nature and the earth? |
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Do we "save lives" or
more often just bodies? ...added to our list of credits, but rewarded with
only painful struggle and to die unnoticed. |
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@revkin - Well, looking for first causes, what's always done the most to keep
speeding up warming is "making money", the one whole cause. |
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Social networks drifting ever
further into their own social realities... Ever more urged by nature go the
other way! synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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Everyone says,
"Well my theory is..." as if that was all nature required to give
them a whole new reality. |
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All the paths for escaping
the house of self-love are so overgrown you can hardly see where they are
anymore. |
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Still... beats me how to get love
to be truthful. I'm just surrounded by intellectual cultures in love with
themselves and happy to be. |
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Putting money in to take more out,
pumps things up but then drains them dry, a fine boom-bust stewardship for
our lives. synapse9.com/issues/Reading… |
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@revkin ...
The MUCH bigger
problem is "leading experts" have long assumed we lived in a
deterministic world, only now finding out we don't. |
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Interesting that Teilhard de Chardin was the genius
McLuhan got his main ideas from... but never mentioned. Strange intellects,
ice on fire |
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That scientists
counted only ~1/5 of the energy demands of businesses (SEA) let
environmentalists make great errors.synapse9.com/SEA |
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Money multiplies for
people who manage money, not anyone else. That difference grows relentlessly
unless money earnings get spent. |
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MCluhan's "the medium is the message" seems to mean that in the
future every cultural network can look out from its own private bubble. |
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@mothernaturenet @revkin still not checking if "clean tech" comes from "dirty
money", the usual investment plan to take over all of nature. |
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how would one know whether
"clean tech" came from "dirty money" or not, the usual
plot of investors to turn the whole earth into products. |
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What if everyone
found a good use for everyone else's trash, like nature does, acting as her
partner instead of her worst problem. |
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What animates change
in nature are explosions of self-organization we see as "growth",
but mysteriously it's not even a subject of physics. |
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People "living
on the edge" are often kept there by aid that fails to change their
problem, only making it worse by trying to hide it. |
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Paper on 500%
adjustment in what energy uses to count, just awarded ASME prize for best
Energy Sustainability paper 2010synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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the problem with
social networks is nature gets seen as their social construct, even science, with
language, as yet, defining everything. |
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mother nature also
kindly reminds us, you better not address her as "sir" either, if
you want to get along... |
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nature is at a loss
how to help her creation, that denies her physical working parts, treating them
like just a game of social appearances. |
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@aleksj One also needs to look at immigration as a series of great waves and
historic events.. synapse9.com/issues/USImmig… |
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Where do you find
the natural world?synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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There's nothing
wrong with the joys of our lives at all, but letting others use them to drive
the earth to exhaustion. |
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Would we find
reality more likely in things we can explain, or in things we are at a loss
to but nature does simply, like growth and change. |
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In demanding CO2 use
if we could smell the gas, we'd get a cubic meter blast for every single
dollar of GDP we spent.synapse9.com/design/dollars… |
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If growth is like
pregnancy, and creates something, limitless growth is a plan to exhaust all resources
before budgeting for child rearing. |
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@aleksj Growth as a "pulse" is more like pregnancy, you just can't
stay in it, and have REAL IMPORTANT things to do and care for then. |
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@aleksj Social media make belief culturally affirming... but observation not,
and so are biased against reading nature.synapse9.com/signals/ |
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@Revkin Environmentalists also impressively ignore the actual source of
demand, that overpowers their own efforts to protect the earth. |
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Environmentalists
Are Doing Impressive Fracking PR Work in New York -
Politics - The Atlantic Wire theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/… |
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So, what is the
"good reason" for our using all our expert systems to make live
better by a means that seems to destroy the earth? |
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So unexpected is
world resource demand exceed world supply, now we don't see it at it's
happening. A defining moment:synapse9.com/pub/ASustInves… |
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Every time I point
out the little gaps, someone thinks I'm just showing them the myths need
patching, and promptly cover it up! ;-) |
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Trying to be a
member in good standing, of a culture blind to its own circumstance, makes
not seeing it a price of "good standing" |
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Our world doesn't
sit still, but is in turbulent motion, as we heat it up without knowing how. |
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Isn't the problem...
that belief is culturally affirming, and observation not, but questioning?
Then our cultures go blind and disconnect. |
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If population &
productivity growth raise demand and nature and conservation both are
decreasing supply, what relieves the growing conflict? |
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Moving to higher
ground to avoid being swept away by a flood is "socially
unacceptable" to people why don't want to get wet. |
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Foo Camp 6/10-12 in Sebastopol lanyrd.com/2011/foocamp/ via @lanyrd - Alex Jakulin
presenting my work - Anarchetype study for natural systems |
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@Revkin @guardian Setting tougher targets for climate change won't reduce a bit the CO2
stimulus of economic growth still in them. |
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@Revkin Tempting, but denying the physical nature of nature won't make it a
malleable concept to change as we like. Reality has no escape. |
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@SustainOurEarth @addthis Speth's micro-managing of
the world ecology as a governmental service, won't erase the limits of money,
nope!! |
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@Revkin @USGS "Peak Planet" isn't a list of resources limits and workouts,
but a systemic collision between nature and man leaving no choice |
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@Revkin But Andy... Smil's "sustained push to
boost innovation" is the old core problem, as ever bigger risks with
nature, used for growth. |
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People's #productivity,
stiffening resolve & natural limits of supply, driving food and fuel
through the roof! synapse9.com/phpub.htm#113 |
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@STWR_ food prices double by 2030? Critical to see it's the drive for
productivity doing it - www.synapse9.com/pub/ASustInvestMoment-PH.pdf |
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The telling mental
gap that “Gapminder.org” graphically displayshttp://synapse9.com/blog/2011/05/30/the-telling-mental-gap-at-gapminderorg |
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The answer is in!
The #limit of #growth is much too
expensive!#Resource #markets switch from inviting
new users to defending their turf! |
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When's it more
profitable to invest in making your environment work than in inflating your
own wealth? In finance, simply never! :-/ |
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When is the point in #growth when it becomes more
profitable to invest in protecting and nurturing your environment than
expanding yourself? |
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@edyong209 @ken_homer - definitely, most
radical change we see coming we can keep denying till the day it arrives,
this just overwhelms |
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#Food crisis, WorldWatch links to fuel demand, making fertilizer from
natural gas too expensive.. synapse9.com/issues/PlanteChange11_03.pdf |
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Was it when our guides
chose to impress on us that nature's voice spoke in their words, not in how
to listen to her's, so very long ago?? |
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When the earth as a
whole calls out our name so clearly, and just as clearly unheard, I wonder
when it was we became so deaf to her song? |
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@Revkin Well, realistically, to have helped him you'd have had to stop and
give him a lift. It wasn't something 911 could really respond to. |
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@GreatConvergnce Duh... syNapse9??
It's about how nature connects things using narrow gaps to have openings
where the wilderness can enter. |
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@GreatConvergnce @dotearth But Gell-Mann trusts the theories of "whole system modelers"
but not the insights of whole system observers. Why? |
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All the signs from our
environment are "sharp turn ahead" but our culture says "race
ahead ever faster"... is THAT all in our heads too?? |
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The PROBLEM, is we
just have not tried enough wild schemes to get unsustainable growth to
continue! That's all it is! |
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I liked a YouTube
video -- Ra Ra Riot - Can You Tell (A Cappella)http://youtu.be/lH91YsaBkVI?a |
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nice art, both kinds!
;-) (YouTube http://youtu.be/lH91YsaBkVI?a) |
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@TEEB4ME But... "invest 2% GDP" still also multiplies the main
problem, ever increasing addiction to depleting resources of all kinds! |
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If nature isn't
responding to us, and both government and business misunderstand, do
"the people" need to tell her what to do instead? |
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Do "facts that
don't fit" have their own drawer in your mind? Or does it only prevent
clutter to quickly erase them? |
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The debate over who
should take charge over nature, the "government" or
"business", seems to be wasting our time.. |
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Where "the
facts are easy but the memes are hard" is *exactly* where to look for
the new questions and new paths we need to understand. |
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why we don't accept
that efficiency always multiplied consumption? ... the facts are easy and the
memes are hard |
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Was it
constitutional for an abdicating president of Egypt to dismiss the
constitution, and give the country to the military?? Sounds odd. |
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Well, if #Egypt was worried about it's tourist business..., They have no worries now! What
a great place to visit it's now become. |
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#Egypt, "putting something on
paper" need not be much, just a wonderfully clear statement of the path
and goal and commitment |
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#Egypt needs to put
something on paper!! Just love and solidarity in the streets... is nothing to
build on, and not sustainable. |
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More delay in Egypt
getting back to life as usual... You'd think the business community would explain..
free markets need free people. |
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#Grist - who's keeping
their heads??http://www.grist.org/article/2011-02-09-smackdown-climate-science-vs-climate-economics#c745923 |
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Egypt |
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Why does the "roadmap"
for Egypt have no destination but silencing the protest...? |
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Egypt is planning on
killing its people to save it's dictator's honor... Grand purpose... bu will it work? No, of course not. |
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I liked a YouTube video
-- The Life and Times of Louis I. Kahn 2007http://youtu.be/SHB0SSj-1k4?a |
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what most people
seem to learn from thinking is that observation is unimportant... |
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"A New Year’s
wish, the true celebration" - last 7 tweets fromhttp://synapse9.com/blog/2010/12/30/a-new-years-wish-the-true-celebration/ |
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It's asking too
much, to expect what you can ask the world to do for you to multiply without
end, denying your connection to life. |
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It's real simple,
nature's energy budget just doesn't allow for one system to take for itself
ever more of the energy needed by others. |
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Cultural reasoning
is not like science, picking the answers it likes, ignoring the rest, rather than
looking for questions with answers. |
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the IPCC then
pointed out we won't even have an planet we'd recognize as earth to return
to, if we don't respond, ignored all but entirely. |
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Keynes pointed out that
when natural limits come money has to stop multiplying too, Meadows to how
it's happening and very dangerous |
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Malthus pointed out that
with unlimited demand the food runs out, and Jevons that being efficient
makes that happen sooner. |
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Seeing the worth of money
as tokens, denies how it connects you to life, each as one equal share of all
you can ask the world to do for you. |
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ain't it the shits... to live up to someone else's ideals and find out they
didn't give a shit?? |
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I liked a YouTube
video -- White Noise http://youtu.be/8hI5Rs-VXQE?a |
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What #wandering #minds need to know...
(we're ALL kind of "out of the loop")
www.synapse9.com/issues/WanderingMinds.htm |
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could the internet
be destroying #knowledge... not converging toward anything
but becoming turbulence to destroy every direction? |
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The #GHG #trend... improving efficiency *HAS NO
EFFECT* on reducing share of fossil fuel use
www.synapse9.com/blog/2010/12/04/dollarshadow/ |
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The most accurate
available measure of anything's #global #impacts is its share of #GDP as a share of the
world's total, #dollarshadow.htm |
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#CharlieRangle I don't think it reflects on you Charlie, but panicky people grasping
for straws. Don't be bitter, they need your help! |
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@Revkin Why have plans to stop #climate change paid for by
continually growing energy use, with growing impacts to be all #unsustainable? |
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100% #renewable?http://www.climatespectator.com.au/commentary/renewable-energy-baseload-power-David-Mills-solar-wind |
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For Thanksgiving, a
little tale of surprising bounty that changes meaning every yearhttp://www.synapse9.com/issues/PeakZucchini.pdf :-) |
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@revkin Who "owns" the resulting CO2 is THE PURCHASER of the service
it provided... That's the physics, the economics might as well follow. |
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But why???... are we
still nearly all reducing only the rate of accelerating increases in our
impacts, and just calling it #"efficient"?? |
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The Capital Institute,
seems significantly different, clear as the greens but going further on the
risk of not preserving natural capital. |
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what they once called
the "widow's cruse" turns out instead to be a a
"youthful world's #challenge", not at ALL the end |
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If you owe someone #money, then they owe it to you to put it
back into the world you got if from, a delightful
real law of balance! |
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Isn't it #rude, when so many trusted voices of the past
decide to become just voices of the past, and you have to move on? |
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Sounds good Leland,
good to talk. (YouTubehttp://youtu.be/L1bWNgJnjuQ?a) |
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People are getting it!
search [site:synapse9.com] my great old writings are coming up |
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"Models
Learning Change" now in Cosmos & History - Natural science for
adaptive modeling, for #growth & #changehttp://synapse9.com/blog/ |
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@sky_pointer @Revkin It's to preserve positive net earnings that investors would spend
them, to not drive net earnings toward zero, as now. |
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What if I were in
power, what would I change?http://synapse9.com/blog/2010/11/12/what-if-i-were-in-power-what-would-i-change/ |
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But how do we reduce
our economic footprint?http://synapse9.com/blog/2010/11/12/but-how-do-we-reduce-our-economic-footprint/ |
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The Story of
"Missing Stuff"http://synapse9.com/blog/2010/11/12/the-story-of-the-missing-stuff/ |
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So... why in the
WORLD do world thinkers fail to menTion the small discrepan... (YouTube http://youtu.be/Zam9DZ43Cl0?a) |
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You can't just tape
up the holes to keep the #bubble's from #bursting(it's essential to turn down the
pumps working to #inflate them too). |
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#Formulas tell of pushes and
pulls on fixed #connections, but #nature the stories of
fitting opposite shapes and chances of new connection. |
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I joined FOUR YEARS.
GO. #4YG. I will pay close attention to how my money
keeps churning my whole world. http://...http://rpx.me/wLU |
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Directions of progress,
without a real objective, are plans to push the limits and be stopped by only
failing to respond to things ignored. |
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Or..What say we...
learn to control ever more #complicatedsystems and then give them ever less thoughtful people???
<:-o <:-o |
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What say we... learn
to control ever more #complicated systems and then
give them ever less thought? <:-o |
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Talk of achieving
"Singularity" begs one ask Which one? ..reducing thought to
singularities or our control of nature, or is that the same? |
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You can't keep a #growth system that doesn't work
as a whole, so even if enticing, #money that promises to
ever multiply won't be kept. |
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To #economists, resource
substitution is defined as free, as if hunter-gatherers still using cut &
run as our theory of #nature! |
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@drgrist #"kicking ass" gets harder if the real fault is with our
love of productivity, having ever greater impacts with ever less effort. |
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We know the appeal
of how machine-like nature is, but we seem caught quite off guard not having
taken interest in how very lively too. |
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I guess if we're running
out of cheap stuff, we'll need to get our stuff elsewhere, if there still is
some place "elsewhere" |
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Maximum growth &
profit go to those who skim and run, so IBG-YBG has been our world economic
policy forever. Hunter-gatherers started it! |
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#CO2 allowance = ~5
years. Cheap #oil supply = ~ 5 to 10
years. Plan to #grow as fast as possible
to keep economy stable forever. What????? |
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Our natural (mental) #limits destabilized our
economy, letting us choose faster resource depletion to stabilize #growth, in the 1950's. |
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I makes us seem like
blind #slaves to ideology to not
question "be fruitful and multiply" even when it's clearly no
longer #fruitful. |
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Obama asks why BP
didn't think through the #consequences of feeding an #economy that must always
multiply it's consumption to remain stable! |
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Everyone knows physical
systems all have breaking points, right? (and theories often don't)... but if #theory is our reality, what
then? |
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@drgrist "Interesting Obama never mentioned...climate" or that growth
requires ever more use of cheapest energy, oil till it runs out too! |
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BEST invention ever,
my solar powered bank account recharger, just put it on your window sill and
watch your money multiply, *guaranteed*! |
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what makes things
"blow up" seems, to often be the wall you
erect to "keep things from blowing up", that would otherwise
"blow over". |
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Given the growing
conflicts, business can't make a profit without taking short cuts, so the
have to ever more to just stay in business. |
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@STWR_ spending a trillion, seeming to be mostly for retribution, really
shows just how cheap we really are! |
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Does it escape our
attention?... that solutions making things more #complex, makes them easier to misunderstand
and harder to change? |
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What about the
spectrum of growing #risks of #growth that are completely
natural, and NOT caused by human error?? |
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The #obligation to help people, who make such a big show of being #helpless, stops where it does more harm, or
just isn't fun. |
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Solutions that
multiply, and hide ever more unrecognized risks, ..are, well
"perfect", giving you nothing at all to worry about. |
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BP #unprepared? Simple #economics limits preparation for ever wider harm of ever bigger things going
wrong, a natural limit of #growth. |
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What you say makes
sense to you but none to me... so we both mush be! |
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What's #real or #imagined isn't possible to tell,
except from the gaps in what you think that keep sending you back to the
source. |
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Pink Floyd walks
into a bar saying "I don't need no thought control", the bartender
says "I'll buy that!", so now they're both fat cats! |
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Why can't nature just
leave our perfect theories alone!! ... always mucking things up by changing
the world around them! |
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is there ANYTHING
different between alternating and escalating effects other than the good
intentions that may or not be behind them?? |
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Sustainability is generally
measured as if the head on a beer, the less head the less beer... right? See
it clear from a distance, no prob! |
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long vigorous and
resilient, reached an unprecedented peak and then literally collapsed... |
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we regulate
economies like a #casino, for players guaranteed to win their
bets and encouraged to pile their winnings on their bets... Smart! |
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Can't change the
past?? Isn't the future just one revisionist history after another,
constantly changing the meaning of the past? #change |
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So, how did we get here,
unable to tell if there are any independent realities, or just culturally
preferred ones? What's that for? |
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Risk of a further
physical system collapse. #growth #criseswww.synapse9.com/blog |
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Is DNA a cell's
molecular "software" or is it the "memory"?? Isn't the #LIFE of the cell what
reads DNA as what worked before, and adapts? |
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@Revkin 'Strong reason to believe' terrorists plotting U.S. strike?? ..Or is
it that from our #growth being a growing
attack on nature? |
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I think Venter's
"big discovery" is risky, but not so. Evolution works ONLY by
addition, and so would not have a logic for us to screw up. |
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In a time of change,
to find the smell of what will work next, smell the new roses too. |
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If the earth were a
social system then nature would listen to government policy too! #growth |
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If the earth were a
social system cheer leading for sustainability helps, and stimulating growth
to call it constraint positive too. #growth |
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Complexity - What is
it? It's what nature does so very simply we can't fathom it, usually lots of
disconnected parts acting as a whole. |
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Evidently streamlining growth to work better, accelerates both its resource uses and impacts, and is what technology always did.#growth |
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You
know there's a physical world, 'cause any time you like you can step right on
it! |
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Yep,
"smart", but just not paying attention. @ninacaplan That's the Malthusian
argument, isn't it... |
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@shoudaknown |
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If
you increase your steps by ever bigger steps, you get to ... overstepping!
Wow, who'd a thunk it? |
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growth
= steadily larger problems ending in ever fewer resources to solve them with. |
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maturation
= steadily smaller problems and steady resources for solving them. |
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In
the age of free information, good information get *just* affordable! |
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the
part we connect, the part we have to wait for that relies on our
environment's response. |
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intimately
knowing your limits, seems to greatly expand them... |
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No
matter what language you write it in, people invariably read it in their own |
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The
real energy problem is our society’s model of ever increasing overhead costs. |
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setting
up twitter, points of elasticity, wondering how to stretch |