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Jessie Henshaw
Blog Reading Nature’s Signals & Research archive Synapse9.com,
(to browse, search by random
number between 1 and 1020)
some related
series of tweets
grouped by order color
some important systems principles highlighted
(SUSPENDED FOR NOW, NO ONE SEEMS TO BE RAISING NEW QUESTIONS, JUST REPEATING OLD IDEAS)
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1211 |
lnkd.in/D8dqdW Why people see growth as a magical process, as if only depending on blessings of some god or a sacred manifest or... |
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1210 |
and... so, I think *that seems to solve everything*! |
21 Feb 2012 |
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1209 |
@Ethical_Corp @CapInstitute @postgrowth @shareabledesign The message is.. unethical profits multiply unethical influence, and we're silent. |
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1208 |
We"aid" the banks, no message attached, who just use it to take ever more, multiplying our risks and their influence again. The message is? |
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1207 |
@postgrowth @shareabledesign Ever
wonder why profitable unethical behavior gains ever growing influence,
and that of self-restraint doesn't? |
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1206 |
@postgrowth @beyondGreenUK Some
day we'll find, prospering by taking control of ever more of everything
else, is what others are doing too. |
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lnkd.in/p_d9Am From reading the methodology it seems Tweets were linked by referring to links with the NY Times. That's possibly... |
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lnkd.in/vyTBX5 That graphic is great, and will help popularize this approach. It was originated by Barabasi, who I'm sure gets... |
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1203 |
When investors just skim profits to multiply good bets, they're not investing in anything, but picking the pockets of a compliant world. |
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1202 |
True investors don't take the world's profits to multiply their own, but spend their returns to support, not tax, what they care about. |
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1201 |
It's confusing at first but then helps, how all "rules of life" and "laws of science" are made local, to the system of nature they're in. |
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1200 |
Building things up is a solution till you get to where they fall over, when reality becomes as unstable as our information often is anyway. |
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1199 |
@donmacca If
it's not a lack of hard work, but increasing resistance from the earth,
it's the greedy needing "Om" to find peace another way. |
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1198 |
It's NOT a lack of hard work, by anyone. It's *increasing resistance* from the earth. More hard work doesn't solve, just makes worse. |
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1197 |
So, is that how this works, everyone gets to live their own fantasy life while our world dies? Society is clearly fiddling while Rome burns. |
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1196 |
What America truly wants is "Clean horsepower, that burns up the road". Is that scale of detachment the scale of loss ahead, 80% or so?? |
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1195 |
If we don't use our creativity to reinvent the idea of profit, it's as certain as gravity that what we've been building won't survive. |
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1194 |
What nature actually likes is not our social values, but a growing process of building things that turns to preserving what was built. |
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1193 |
That investor choice, to preserve the whole rather than enrich themselves, actually ends up being more profitable, why nature likes it. |
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1192 |
Where growth doesn't end in tragedy it's using profit to look for growing profit that turns to preserving the whole, an investor choice. |
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1191 |
On any planet, for any species, searching for profit that multiplies profit brings wealth to all with a high risk of impoverishing all. |
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1190 |
@ecomagination The
best way to waste good ideas is to multiply them till your environment
fails. - mankind's most ancient misconception - |
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1189 |
@giyom Of
course, growth to a tragic end isn't from all bets remaining positive,
but people finding positive bets to multiply till all fail. |
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1188 |
Exactly how we bet on the earth being infinite is investing for ever growing profits, a formula for cancers that ends in killing their host. |
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1187 |
@Revkin The
one tsunami the #AAASmtg doesn't
explore, though, is our own ever growing wave of investment in the earth
being infinite. |
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1186 |
@giyom What
seems to break any trusted currency is giving people what they want, a
guarantee of sure bets so their savings can multiply. |
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1185 |
@thinkprogress Yes,
stimulus worked again to restore our growing depletion of the earth, a
10,000 year track record of great success!! ;-) |
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1184 |
It's harder to find out what it is that allows our whole society to so peacefully sleep through our exhaustion of the earth. |
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1183 |
Tragic, but it's being "innovative" that has us sustaining our increasing rate of resource depletion, thinking we're creating resources... |
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1182 |
@nelderini @postcarbon What's
new on "peak everything" is why the economy hits it as a whole, with
internal conflict.synapse9.com/pub/ASustInves…
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1181 |
The Greeks made mistakes but are being screwed, too. All lose bigger if bond holders don't spend their profits instead of taking ever more. |
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1180 |
@thinkprogress Why
investors were taxed less than labor was that multiplying investment in
consuming the planet once seemed very productive. |
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1179 |
What to do if you just don't want to support the "plant your seed to multiply seed till our host dies" lifestyle, we use for prosperity? |
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1178 |
@thetakeaway Why is it the Catholic church saying it can impose it's religious law, as if Sharia, on its employees? Are they confused? |
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1177 |
@HeleneFinidori @SavoryInstitute Yes,
exactly. The motive for "big money" is how profit taking to take more is
itself becoming unprofitable. |
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1176 |
@HeleneFinidori @SavoryInstitute Most investors confuse it as taking profits from one thing, to then take ever more from something else...! |
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1175 |
@HeleneFinidori @SavoryInstitute To be viable, everything needs to make a profit, but not to multiply, and so stress any environment. |
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1174 |
@HeleneFinidori @SavoryInstitute To correct the scaling errors of capitalism, profits aren't used to grow profits, if the earth is stressed. |
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1173 |
@HeleneFinidori @SavoryInstitute .. I think to "scale it up" as you want, you'd add to it what corrects the scaling errors of capitalism. |
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1172 |
@HeleneFinidori @SavoryInstitute The
rub is "how can this be scaled?" is what capitalism solves, with ever
scaling benefits now the problem. |
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1171 |
Isn't it odd, how "the thing in our heads" creates a whole world of its own, not seeing the inside of ANYTHING else on earth to do it? :-) |
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1170 |
@Revkin Our
thinking STILL counts "no direct evidence" as "no evidence", though
clear untraced effects are ENORMOUS.synapse9.com/SEA
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1169 |
@InvasiveNotes ...And
the "invasive species" to watch is "us". SO struck by the realities we
observe, caring ONLY about our beliefs. |
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1168 |
Anyone can see our mental reality isn't nature's, but telling how when we act on our thinking but BUT DON'T EVEN WATCH NATURE'S, is SO hard! |
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1167 |
We seek SUCH valid dreams with SUCH invalid methods, SEEING reality but, but then CONFUSING it with magical ideas in our heads, WHEN ACTING. |
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1166 |
So much good to do, harm to correct, friendship and learning to enjoy, but we consume everything useful on earth ever faster, to serve it??? |
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1165 |
Isn't it strange?? China is furiously trying to "CATCH UP" by rapidly building out a whole economy of quite outmoded high energy technology! |
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1164 |
It *seems* that natural systems created by their own growth have no internal design or behavior, but *it's only quite hidden* from our view, |
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1163 |
A GLIMMER OF HOPE when even big scientific journals start to talk about reality; how changing the earth changes us.ourfiniteworld.com/2012/02/12/thr… |
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1162 |
What goes wrong when growth ends before its limits ?synapse9.com/signals/2012/0… |
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1161 |
Words let you say *such big things*, knowing nothing about them. The older and larger language of life is in "doing", 99.9% lost to words. |
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1160 |
Gender is also one of those subjects important to an information society, about which there is still much more to "do than say" reality. |
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1159 |
Part of how self-managing systems work inside, is to respond naturally as their plan for growth becomes unmanageable, to stop following it. |
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1158 |
How the design we chose for our economy is like a cancer is in it's design to grow as fast as possible till it kills its host, and itself. |
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1157 |
Having essentially no information on how the self-managing systems of nature work, we inadvertently designed our economy like a cancer. |
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1156 |
The real error is thinking our information tells us how the world works, *entirely missing* how self-managing systems are organized inside. |
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1155 |
My having SO much fun finding the errors letting us destroy the earth, doesn't make up for the isolation of having to watch it happen. |
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1154 |
Could technology be an ever entertaining game of learning about the planet instead of like now, an ever entertaining game of burning it up? |
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@Revkin The
"reality math" of #KXL CO2
reveals one of many, all showing outsourced energy impacts ~x4 what's
measured.synapse9.com/SEA
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lnkd.in/s6QEVF Well, it presses the credulity of intellectuals more than informal thinkers. There's a very interesting property... |
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@Ethical_Corp It's
a BIG ethical challenge is resist addressing traceable harms and neglect
growing ones that aren't.synapse9.com/signals/2012/0…
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lnkd.in/EdfiBB Would you like a real discussion of how and why our economies became designed for a different kind of planet than... |
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1149 |
@Revkin If
nature listened to our values, we'd have a different world. There's no
way she can speed things up for us to slow them down tho. |
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@Revkin Maybe
my problem is most everyone speaks as if nature is a social phenomenon,
as if "nature is listening" and all we need is belief. |
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1147 |
@Revkin You
don't see the "green faith" in speeding up the economy to slow its
growing impacts as "lost opportunity"?synapse9.com/pub/EffMultipl…
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@ClimateReality Check
the 4x "reality math" for facts. True CO2 footprints need all the
outsourced fuel uses too.synapse9.com/signals
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1145 |
Expecting growth in a shrinking world makes sense only to the senseless. It asks nature, "Oh could we please have ever growing conflict?" |
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1144 |
@johnmsmart Found 2008 blog post, of letter to you with no address - Multilevel selection in evolution – Devo-evo?synapse9.com/signals/2008/1… |
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1143 |
All it causes... is *missing so much* of what's happening, saving the earth then positively accelerates our failures.synapse9.com/signals/2012/0… |
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1142 |
"Who would care" if there was a perfectly practical way to do it, from observing natural successions, and that theory is all in our heads. |
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1141 |
Just not studying how real processes emerge seems *so much simpler*. Our mental models are too simplistic and missing most of the data too! |
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1140 |
"Scientists unconcerned" by real systems too hidden to record and too evolving to model "Sure we see them, but just study theory instead" |
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1139 |
One proof is in how OUR systems work, guided by self-interest, misled into destroying the earth, believing nature follows our theories. |
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SO MUCH IS HIDDEN inside systems that work by themselves, it's unscientific to treat nature as working by our theories.synapse9.com/signals/2012/0… |
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@InvasiveNotes @CBSNews Well...
in that odd sense, that terrorism is really intended as "people power"
and we usually don't like the people. |
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1136 |
The "reality math" says the ONLY way these big financial bailouts actually work, is for bond holders to then SPEND their restored profits. |
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1135 |
But if all around you are people who believe the world is a creation of their own consciousness, don't you have to just agree with them? |
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1134 |
With every business needing ever growing shares of the earth, I guess we now all agree, the ultimate good &evil are one and the same thing. |
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1133 |
@newscientist Ohi! The blame game goes in circles. Why the Earth Summit is doomed is because of us, expecting gov & biz to stabilize growth. |
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1132 |
@Revkin Yea,
why did we not design more secure software? Is it not possible, or just
not imaginable for whole nations to be so dishonest! |
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1131 |
Still confused. Why does "religious freedom" relieve religious employers of the need to protect the religious freedom of their employees? |
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1130 |
Isn't it odd, our world choice of ever bigger and more complex solutions for still faster growing problems as our path to peace & security? |
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1129 |
Even today, 2012, a hundred years late, almost no one sees why the earth wouldn't as infinite as ideas, with our options visibly vanishing. |
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1128 |
@Revkin - The rub.. is productivity has been exhausting resources faster than new productivity creates them, driving a loss of opportunity. |
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1127 |
@Revkin Well,
Andy, You sound so ignorant to dismiss both #KXLand
why nature dismisses politics; our ever growing need for using things
up. |
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1126 |
@AAASMeetings Could “reality math” help the AAAS?? #AAASmtgsynapse9.com/signals/2012/0… |
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1125 |
Why does "reality math" matter?? People see their information as their reality. This math corrects our misinformation on the impacts of $'s. |
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1124 |
@InvasiveNotes Do
you count the "reality math", of ~8000btu/$ ??synapse9.com/SEA
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1123 |
The "reality math" is: "Average" impacts per $ is far more accurate than "0". synapse9.com/SEA So unreported impacts get counted. |
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1122 |
The "reality math" is embarrassing, OK, like exposing the Maldives' growing a high carbon economy, but WHAT deserves the embarrassment here? |
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1121 |
Avoiding "reality math", REALLY doesn't promote sustainability. All money has much closer to average impacts than zero.synapse9.com/SEA |
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1120 |
"Finding reality" takes two ways to explain things 1) for a reality in our minds we invent and 2) another for things nature invents, not us. |
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1119 |
Piling up money till it collapses is piling up the future we're building till it collapses too. If "just numbers", it wouldn't collapse. |
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1118 |
We could back off a bit, to see "piling up our dreams till they collapse" as "piling up our dreams till they collapse". It's only reality. |
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1117 |
The solutions for saving the environment have given us multiplying problems to address, somehow. Is it our dodging the real questions? |
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1116 |
A great thing about sacred beliefs, is how unquestionable they become. Would doubting our beliefs then, give us much more reliable ones?? |
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1115 |
so are we distracted from seeing "piling up stuff till it collapses" as "piling up stuff till it collapses", by "thinking with no thinking"? |
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1114 |
@Adbusters Well,
the violence of choice is "language violence", so enthralling even those
you're attacking can't stop passing it around. |
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1113 |
lnkd.in/h8cs9b Yes I'd generally agree, though one's choice of pejoratives is generally a kind of personal thing. Our two "main... |
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1112 |
You can see a fragility of birth in "the wilting of the Arab Spring", not following freedom with a period of calm, for making things work. |
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1111 |
The fragility of birth, to cut all ties with your prior source of life, while still weak, is very dangerous, and even more dangerous not to. |
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1110 |
Our growth guidance system, as a feeble shoot, still defines using up its seed resource faster as more profitable than putting down roots. |
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1109 |
A seedling is most vulnerable as a feeble shoot, at its limits of growth using the seed's fossil fuel, before it has taken root. Us too. |
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1108 |
lnkd.in/EAVA7h Clif, Well, the first thing seems for "mankind to see what game it's playing", before it can tell how we’re playing... |
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1107 |
#enoughwhat A benefit of recognizing your own limits is the freedom and security you get from not losing control of events that matter more. |
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1106 |
#enoughwhat Enough with thinking money has no impacts, though it's plain we use it to request physical services, and we just don't see how! |
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1105 |
#enoughwhat Enough of thinking that on a shrinking planet, taking more and more for yourself doesn't rob someone else. |
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1104 |
#enoughwhat Enough thinking we "know it all" just because how nature organizes things leaves most observers utterly "out of the loop". |
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1103 |
#enoughwhat Enough thinking our globally shrinking resources are "unknown" and so maybe infinite... even as their prices go ever upward.. |
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1102 |
@echoinggreen Our information is like "Swiss cheese" as market and natural systems leave observers "out of the loop".synapse9.com/signals/2012/0… |
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1101 |
@echoinggreen #infographics for
why our information on how nature works is SO full of holes. synapse9.com/issues/images/… fromsynapse9.com/signals/2012/0…
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lnkd.in/gXqBAx I don't know if I can jump directly from the reasoning above, but definitely agree in principle. One difficulty... |
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1099 |
lnkd.in/WgenAP I don't know if I can directly use the reasoning here. I agree in principle, but note things like that the natural... |
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1098 |
lnkd.in/3mfVmh But... as the saying goes, "there's no profit in it". These kind of dreamy schemes don't offer anything for the... |
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1097 |
@Revkin ...but
we're not going to sway public opinion if reducing CO2 for a financially
strapped world competes for resources with growth. |
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1096 |
@thinkprogress -
But is that "real" progress, ...still be skirting how the rich can keep
*multiplying* their earnings while wages now won't? |
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1095 |
So, what keeps us from ending our own explosive growth is 1) not knowing unknown supplies are finite and 2) how to turn off a growth system. |
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1094 |
How resource prices are rising indicates we crossed a natural limit of profitably using their decreasing quality.synapse9.com/pub/ASustInves… |
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1093 |
Maximizing our resource use efficiency we DOUBLE OUR RESOURCE NEED, and consume as much as in all of economic history, about every 40 years. |
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1092 |
Look at the our culture, what still sells is advertising a never ending consumption spree, when we know affordable fuels are running out. |
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1091 |
Why didn't they respond to increasingly unaffordable resources? Just like us their rich also probably kept wanting to just get richer. |
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1090 |
We'd vanish like the Romans, Mayans and lots of others, depleting our resources till our rich societies just can't afford to keep working. |
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1089 |
It's ever increasing rates of depletion for all resources, that decreases their quality to make them unaffordable to use in a crashing wave. |
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1088 |
We act as if we realize our known resources are finite, but unaware exhausting our unknown ones VASTLY SPEEDS UP near their useful end. |
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1087 |
The mega-wave of resource depletions started with demand food and fuel exceeding supply, and growth ever accelerates those and ALL others. |
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1086 |
Isn't it odd, that we're facing a true global resource depletion tsunami, for EVERYTHING the economies find useful, AND NO ONE IS AWARE. |
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1085 |
Our world consensus plan for sustaining prosperity **IS** to do what it takes to keep multiply money, as it depletes the earth ever faster. |
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1084 |
Why is our whole cultural conversation ignoring the physical world??? It looks as if what's physically happening has no cultural relevance. |
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1083 |
@HeleneFinidori Rediscovering what nature is doing inside those voids in our information becomes both fun and highly instructive it seems. |
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1082 |
@HeleneFinidori People quite often "make up stuff" for those natural voids in our maps of the world, to drift lazily into magical thinking. |
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1081 |
@HeleneFinidori Well,
my focus has long been on the curious large voids in our information,
around systems nature builds from the inside. |
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1080 |
Is “Big Media” becoming “Big Brother”? Or are we acting out a more common grand human tragedy... living like a cancer?synapse9.com/signals/2012/0… |
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1079 |
@HeleneFinidori Yes, and gaps in barriers are openings for active exploration. What if an "information world" favors "magical thinking"? |
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1078 |
@HeleneFinidori Why
no use?? Lots of use!! If you discover you're wasting your time you can
do something else. Lots of use!! |
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1077 |
@HeleneFinidori Yes,
in our minds that makes sense. The issue is to nature it won't, if what
we do has the reverse of the intended effect. |
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1076 |
lnkd.in/8WZEHC Well, the earliest fairly clear prediction inherent systemic financial instability that would produce great waves... |
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1075 |
@HeleneFinidori My puzzle is why, if the world isn't working like our theory, "stewards of the earth" question the evidence instead. |
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1074 |
@HeleneFinidori We've
been producing more of that, as well as fossil. Our uses deplete
everything else usable on earth exponentially too. |
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1073 |
@yesmagazine @dkorten David,
Even with those big steps the most critical one even Keynes pointed out
is missing, a natural limit for money. |
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1072 |
@HeleneFinidori You know... like we've been "saving energy" all the time, and every year our energy use in total is growing exponentially... |
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1071 |
@HeleneFinidori I've
been in the middle of the activation movements for 40 years. People like
their beliefs and ignore the reverse effects. |
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1070 |
@thinkprogress ..and
"job creation" continues to expand the economy and accelerate our
depletion of natural resources exponentially. |
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1069 |
@HeleneFinidori What gets "our ecology for transformation" off its islands of self-affirmation? We seem flustered by the reality of nature. |
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1068 |
Regular periods of economic "retooling" causing "The Patterson Cycle" and why is it roughly 14 years long? qr.ae/7fmpu on @Quora |
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1067 |
@VenessaMiemis Our
ancient cultural "#meta-narrative"
is "using our minds to control the world", why we don't notice we're
destroying it. |
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1066 |
@Ethical_Corp -
Lesson 11, Always missing from #TopTen is
to "Count the impacts of using your profit to keep multiply your
impacts."#CSR
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1065 |
@InvasiveNotes @EcoInteractive Well...
"Northern forests" actually NEVER were able to "trap carbon". Biomass
residence time low, CO2's high. |
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1064 |
@ExperienceLife -
"Visionaries striving for a healthier world" need humility too. Pumping
the earth dry is mostly for the same goal too. |
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1063 |
Or is it perhaps not the false ploys but the true ones like Google and Facebook, making the real power of the money multiplier's addicition. |
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1062 |
Or is it because we're gullible and easily seduced by false gifts as ploys, paid for by people with a life addiction as a money multiplier. |
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1061 |
Or was it that someone big gave all our experts marching orders to march us all off over the biggest of all possible cliffs? |
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1060 |
So really, why are we trying to sustain our prosperity by using up our depleting resources ever faster, something we ate? |
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1059 |
Komen: We "apologize to the American public for recent decisions that
cast doubt...[on] our mission of saving women's lives." |
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1058 |
@webisteme well,
sure, the "money multiplier" is the person or business that rents their
money to multiply it. It's addictive. |
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1057 |
lnkd.in/yCkDWE OK, but you're still just asking how to represent nature in your model. That’s a study of modeling not of how... |
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1056 |
@Adbusters #occupy Really since ~1970 when median incomes leveled off, GDP growth has been ENTIRELY growth in disparity, NOTHING ELSE. |
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1055 |
@rushkoff Nature's ideal way to fund the web, so content is made for the viewer, needs a way to offer micro credits to sites as we view. |
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1054 |
@rushkoff - Doug, from my view of economies as physical systems, your ideas seem *just spot on*, and important. We'd have things to share. |
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1053 |
@Ethical_Corp -
Ah well, see comment, "decoupling" one thing'll multiply our other
wicked problems.. #CSR #Keystone awe.sm/5eUPn
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1052 |
@STWR_ Helena,
I agree with the logic, that the right way to end growth would keep jobs
and save the climate too...theeconomicsofhappiness.wordpress.com/2012/01/27/the…
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1051 |
When you start seeing the economy as an organic behavior of a whole environment, it helps turn your attention away from imposing your rules. |
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1050 |
It really helps explain the economy to see that growth has such amazing variety in its complexity to be impossible to solve as an equation. |
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1049 |
Driving a complex organic growth system like the economy, to grow like a cancer forever, hoping a model of boxes and arrows helps, won't. |
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1048 |
@NatureNews Growth remains a growth process, creating the features of complex systems, nothing like a numeric model for boxes and arrows. |
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1047 |
lnkd.in/3ABZeA Wolfgang, Thanks for your persistence. I’m trying to point out a common conceptual error, in thinking about how... |
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1046 |
If ~$100K of GDP makes CO2 needing 1 acre of forest to recapture, who pays the finance, tax and labor costs of maintaining it forever too? |
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1045 |
@TheTakeaway If nothing will be "decided" except by the election, then all we need to talk about is better understanding the real problems. |
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1044 |
lnkd.in/GspVjN Not quite sure what you're saying. Resource markets have much more control over the decisions people than the... |
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1043 |
lnkd.in/ZubK9G Well if that's what you want to know, then ask me. I've had the answer to that for 30 years, and to my surprise I... |
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lnkd.in/cXe6Ny OK, you seem to say you've another way to know all the right answers to the unusual questions I'd ask, and so don't... |
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1041 |
It turns out the best parts of #capitalism are kept, and the evil parts lost, if businesses stop growing like cancers when the whole can't. |
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1040 |
So... IF investors noticed limits to growing the economy were making it unprofitable, would they keep their parts growing like a cancer? |
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1039 |
lnkd.in/_87rKr I guess you seem to keep saying just the right principles, but reaching the opposite conclusion I do. You say... |
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1038 |
The big thing setting apart #Lively systems from ones following set rules or equations is their way of emerging as new systems with a burst. |
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1037 |
@Revkin Search for life here on Earth alive too, spotting systems large or small working by themselves, as bursts of new relationships . |
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1036 |
lnkd.in/uy5Rti Complexity models have a great many more problems with representing how natural systems emerge from their... |
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1035 |
@HansRosling A
way to fall into poverty and stay there is our old and current way of
prospering, by ever accelerating resource depletion. |
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1034 |
@NYTimesFriedman famously wrote on our shrinking environment, now plans on the opposite for our next great recovery..nytimes.com/2012/01/29/opi… |
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1033 |
@nytimes Tom, It's such a mystery when "a changing environment" is the problem, we don't look for what it's changing!nytimes.com/2012/01/29/opi… |
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1032 |
lnkd.in/2MJtR5 Well, I certainly agree with you when you say "There is no perfect closed from solution to anything." It's where... |
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1031 |
Chile's Camila is a cool leader, like others tho, leading people to think distributing the problem of money will solve it not worsen it. |
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1030 |
lnkd.in/pSbRiG Oops, some sort of mysterious error, 1.1.1. was mean to be 1.3.4 I think with * for 2. with the first word... |
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1029 |
Going through these wrenching changes once a generation, or once every twenty, that's one thing, but going for doing them monthly is rough. |
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1028 |
lnkd.in/rCTPXV 1. In common English, "reality" would be what our minds don't define, the matter of the world that exists by... |
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1027 |
How to fly a pickle, first grow wings and jam your foot to the floor, then when you crash be glad it's just a pickle, and not your society. |
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1026 |
lnkd.in/ENHvek So, if your model of a system's past indicates acceleration of a vehicle toward a tree, you could then compare the... |
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1025 |
@OccupyWallStNYC.
Why doesn't anyone seem to notice what creates inequality is not profit,
but using it to multiply your power over others. |
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1024 |
@Revkin doesn't
"locked in" to opposite extremes for the next 1000 years sound more like
politics than the weather? |
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1023 |
@giyom Banking *would* naturally shrink to a "clearing" task, if not for people adding sure profits to their bets for concentrating wealth. |
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1022 |
@dataliberation IT'S NOT FAIR AT ALL. You lock us into free services, to collect our data as your property, to sell not in our interests. |
26 Jan 2012 |
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1021 |
#Capitalism in Crisis @FinancialTimes - It's easy to criticize, not knowing how to steer an economy away from dead endsft.com/intl/cms/s/0/8… |
26 Jan 2012 |
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1020 |
@brookejarvis See comment there (yesmagazine.org/planet/new-yor…) Natural gas may be a high carbon, not low carbon, energy source synapse9.com/issues/images/… |
26 Jan 2012 |
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1019 |
lnkd.in/59S4sb I really do appreciate your frustration. The next question beyond having a useful model may be a way to say what... |
26 Jan 2012 |
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1018 |
lnkd.in/uMpshf It's just that to discuss how models fit a complex system like an economy, you kind of need to discuss the subject,... |
24 Jan 2012 |
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1017 |
lnkd.in/W_9KRq I think if you check the instrumental processes involved, you find that the means by which what you call... |
24 Jan 2012 |
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1016 |
lnkd.in/PNpepf That's the thing, they're made of information ONLY in our minds. The working processes of nature don't use... |
24 Jan 2012 |
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1015 |
@politifact An odder belief is I=PAT, that technology efficiency that first multiplied impacts will reverse them too!synapse9.com/home.htm#ish1 |
24 Jan 2012 |
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1014 |
@politifact Why the economy doesn't behave as expected includes how crazy what we expect is, that it should grow forever with no difficulty. |
24 Jan 2012 |
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1013 |
@politifact re:#FLdebate You might fact check if any of them showed an understand of why the economy is not behaving as anyone expects? |
24 Jan 2012 |
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1012 |
lnkd.in/TXGizB Well, I could show you dozens of ways in which describing natural systems as information models following natural... |
23 Jan 2012 |
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1011 |
It's disturbing that usually "sustainability = BAU", more hidden ever growing impacts. Uncovering it will yield great hidden rewards too. |
23 Jan 2012 |
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1010 |
The economists who did it weren't "evil", they just wanted MEASURES OF GROWTH AND CONSTRAINT that conflicted, to BOTH mean "good". |
23 Jan 2012 |
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1009 |
Then if you use the phrase "do the math" as if it means something, and you find out you've been tricked, who should be responding but isn't. |
23 Jan 2012 |
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1008 |
So, that a trick of %'s allowed sustainability to become BAU and EVERYONE happy about it, still leaves us sustaining ever faster depletion. |
23 Jan 2012 |
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1007 |
People quoted rates of change in %'s are easily confused, by "units of measure" that are reset to "1.0", with each and every measurement. |
23 Jan 2012 |
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1006 |
What turned "sustainability" into "BAU" was at the beginning of the movement, economists defined decrease as slower %'s of increase.2012 |
23 Jan 2012 |
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1005 |
If an intellectual trick turned "sustainability" into "BAU", to make it both popular and profitable, who should be responding but isn't? |
23 Jan 2012 |
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1004 |
@MittRomney Hmm... trying to buy the world turned out not to be cheap it seems. |
22 Jan 2012 |
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1003 |
@InvasiveNotes What most characterizes what a system selects is it's swell of accumulating parts over time, starting small and ending small. |
22 Jan 2012 |
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1002 |
lnkd.in/NYcBDm Ah, well. We do seem to all be agreeing on our inability to find a common way to refer to our subject again. I... |
22 Jan 2012 |
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1001 |
@InvasiveNotes Not really. What they effectively "scour their environments for" are complementary parts to add, on all scales at once. |
22 Jan 2012 |
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1000 |
lnkd.in/bBzrEk Wolfgang, "Predicting the future" may well be a false objective for models lacking a way to anticipate change in... |
22 Jan 2012 |
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999 |
InvasiveNotes John Peter Thompson A paradox is a paradox for a reason: it means there’s something wrong in our thinking. |
21 Jan 2012 |
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998 |
@InvasiveNotes Fermi "not a paradox"?? If changes build, not vary randomly, results might be far more improbable.blogger.com/comment.g?blog… |
22 Jan 2012 |
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997 |
@Revkin @Annaleen If scientists don't lead with their real questions, others can't repeat them, and no one learns to think scientifically. |
22 Jan 2012 |
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996 |
It's still the free choice of investors... to invest in exploiting the earth to its exhaustion for ever growing false profits, either way. |
22 Jan 2012 |
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995 |
Or is it not paying attention that traps us in fixed thinking about an ever changing world, that forces us to develop bad hearts? |
22 Jan 2012 |
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994 |
Is it that our bad hearts cause us to not pay attention, so we get in trouble with our endlessly beautiful ever changing world? |
22 Jan 2012 |
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993 |
You might say "nature's at fault", inventing all kinds of things "too good to be true" that blow up and rearrange everything around them. |
21 Jan 2012 |
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992 |
lnkd.in/Emtp7C Wolfgang, Starting from your saying what matters “IS THE INTERFACE AMONG THEM, where virtually no one is working”.... |
21 Jan 2012 |
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991 |
@InvasiveNotes: "if an entity grows at the exspense of the orginating source shoud it always be excised?"- or paired by finding its match?? |
21 Jan 2012 |
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990 |
@Revkin What does "game over" for climate change mean,the chance of losing manhattan to the sea up from 5% to 50% maybe, a new problem? |
20 Jan 2012 |
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989 |
lnkd.in/tD-hYr George, I'd accept your concept of "human nature" as a measurable entity, for how we represent things to fit into... |
20 Jan 2012 |
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988 |
The #media of a sane #society would spend 90% of #politicaldiscussion on understanding the problems and 10% of what politicians say... |
20 Jan 2012 |
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987 |
@aleksj Oh,.. and the way we talked about for monetizing the web does offer a simple way to secure it too. |
19 Jan 2012 |
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986 |
@aleksj But... how would you secure the open web?? Shouldn't the biggies volunteer to design a way rather rather than throw their tantrums? |
19 Jan 2012 |
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985 |
What's "shady" about finance? SO many ways of dismissing how money is confined to reality, as what we use to ask others to do stuff! |
19 Jan 2012 |
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984 |
Where are medicine's "leaches", religion's "incantations" and science's "epicycles" today?? Well they obviously ALL moved into finance! |
19 Jan 2012 |
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983 |
lnkd.in/zw7STN Maybe this will help identify what has always separated our approaches, as well as show you my way of getting to... |
19 Jan 2012 |
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982 |
Tax Law needs *two rates for capital gains* 1)a rate for investments that build, and 2) for those that burn, our bridges to having a future. |
19 Jan 2012 |
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981 |
What burns our bridges to the future is using the resources to build them for anything else, burning them up denying the need to change. |
19 Jan 2012 |
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980 |
The big #jobs #loss the #Keystone pipeline would cause is loss of scarce resources for a sustainable economy to extending an outmoded one. |
19 Jan 2012 |
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979 |
lnkd.in/2mZizD Wolfgang, Well you suggest human cognition is enough, and I don’t doubt as knowledge accumulates cognition may... |
18 Jan 2012 |
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978 |
The great past societies that excelled in problem solving all appear to have bet on it, creating their own insolvable problem and died. |
18 Jan 2012 |
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977 |
The big difference between physical and conceptual worlds, is nature keeps perfect track of things physically we mostly miss conceptually. |
18 Jan 2012 |
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976 |
lnkd.in/mAuYfE Wolfgang, Yes I agree with that principle, that from a modeler's view it's identifying real constraints that allow... |
18 Jan 2012 |
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975 |
@InvasiveNotes @eizusdoow I think Google is very largely just being greedy, not wanting to change their growth model to make the world safe. |
18 Jan 2012 |
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974 |
It might appear someone should, but actually no one really makes money off of driving their whole economic system to exhaustion. |
18 Jan 2012 |
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973 |
lnkd.in/j3PN6b Well, how I was able to predict a storm of crises 30 years in the future, that would end economic growth... |
18 Jan 2012 |
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972 |
Still, the opportunity to make the change, from growth to self-reliance needs resources, and does pass by if used to resist not to move on. |
18 Jan 2012 |
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971 |
It can be a tough choice, if the baggage to cut at the limit to growth is the former source of life, the fossil resource or umbilical chord. |
18 Jan 2012 |
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970 |
It's a similar choice for a world economy, for it to graduate from taxing the earth to get ever bigger to get ever better, or we go broke. |
18 Jan 2012 |
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969 |
An individual's "limit to growth" is "change", stop paying for college, shed the baggage of childhood and finding how to be free and profit. |
18 Jan 2012 |
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968 |
People are so stubborn they miss the most obvious of natural solutions to what we see as confounding problems, like limits to growth. |
18 Jan 2012 |
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967 |
@edyong209 @revkin Also funny is omitting how "good science" sees "new science" as "bad science" to joke about first.blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscien… |
17 Jan 2012 |
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966 |
"Dodges" are OK if it's dodging the bullet rather than dodging the question... to stand flat footed waiting for bullets, like 0 net-energy. |
17 Jan 2012 |
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965 |
@JohnTierneyNYT Easy Counter to Climate Change (promoting growth too) like ALL #dodges, lets real problem get worse.nyti.ms/xtWjik |
17 Jan 2012 |
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964 |
@NYTIMES Practical Counter to Climate Change (promoting growth too) like ALL #dodges, lets the real problem get worse.nyti.ms/xtWjik |
17 Jan 2012 |
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963 |
@Ethical_Corp The "bridge to the future" would also have grown an economy too big to ever cross, a deeper error all growth plans make. |
17 Jan 2012 |
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962 |
**Any project starts with growth**, using its progress to multiply its parts, but then to survive... uses its progress to serve its world. |
17 Jan 2012 |
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961 |
@Ethical_Corp Yes, as a "bridge to the future" natural gas was investors' dream ignoring their system's effects again!energy.wilkes.edu/PDFFiles/Repor… |
17 Jan 2012 |
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960 |
@7homaslin @nytimes @revkin You find natural processes are not inherent, but develop from local invention, like even social networks! |
16 Jan 2012 |
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959 |
@7homaslin @nytimes @revkin How little information we can have is seen in how individual events originate, always from a vanishing point! |
16 Jan 2012 |
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958 |
@7homaslin @nytimes @revkin What'll show how little information we can have is how individual events develop, always from a vanishing point! |
16 Jan 2012 |
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957 |
@7homaslin @nytimes Oh, I think it already has with more coming, like showing how little information about how nature works we'll ever have. |
16 Jan 2012 |
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956 |
@revkin So really, why is world policy to reduce economic impacts and keep the economy growing by switching from resources to efficiency? |
16 Jan 2012 |
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955 |
@Ethical_Corp The Challenge for #CSR #Sustainability #Reporting, What share of the whole is yours?? synapse9.com/signals/2012/0… |
16 Jan 2012 |
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954 |
@InvasiveNotes Oh no!! as growth is how all things begin. They're kept if the profit they make from expanding control gets spent joining in. |
16 Jan 2012 |
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953 |
@InvasiveNotes @lisduarte @Brazilintel If the social values of the cells deny being part of the body, every cell is a cancer, like we see. |
16 Jan 2012 |
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952 |
@postgrowth Using social value theory gave us reducing the economy by expanding it more efficiently, driving all our purposes into conflict. |
16 Jan 2012 |
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951 |
If the social thinking of both liberals and conservatives come from voodoo science, it's pride in the competition that's really sick. |
16 Jan 2012 |
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950 |
@Ethical_Corp @Revkin Our social thinking is SO #uneducated, expanding things more efficiently to shrink them, is #scientism, not #science. |
16 Jan 2012 |
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949 |
It's that concentrating jobs in fewer hands is now a more profitable way to "make money", as everything pushes up against natural limits. |
15 Jan 2012 |
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948 |
There's a quite natural cause for investment markets acting as if it was more profitable to use our savings to eliminate jobs for our kids. |
15 Jan 2012 |
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947 |
I think maybe the more steps of separation between your eyes and your impacts serves to greatly reduce them... is that possible? |
15 Jan 2012 |
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946 |
@Ethical_Corp #CSR #Fracking When studied as a system, does natural gas really create more GHG's than coal or oil?energy.wilkes.edu/PDFFiles/Repor… |
15 Jan 2012 |
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945 |
@Revkin @TimesUnion Andy, what about research saying natural gas, as a system, produces more GHG's that coal or oil??energy.wilkes.edu/PDFFiles/Repor… |
15 Jan 2012 |
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944 |
@mattmillernow It's predators,.. but that *everyone's* savings once created jobs for our kids, naturally reversing at the limits of growth. |
15 Jan 2012 |
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943 |
Is politics a lot like mud wrestling, with everyone floundering around trying to pin each other with their slippery misconceptions? |
14 Jan 2012 |
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942 |
@theTBI @JesseJenkins Problem with proving macro principles with micro theory @climateprogress is rebound still = 2.5.thinkprogress.org/romm/2012/01/1… |
14 Jan 2012 |
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941 |
lnkd.in/u4MpjW Isn't it something like a "natural law" that an implied contract for guaranteed perpetual multiplying returns on... |
14 Jan 2012 |
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940 |
Our purposes in growth started coming into growing conflict 50+ years ago, as if with the limits of the earth, as intensifying resistance. |
14 Jan 2012 |
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939 |
It might start with noticing the things our theories can't control, and realizing that most of our ideal purposes are coming into conflict. |
14 Jan 2012 |
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938 |
How do we get back to a world that hasn't gone mad with conflicting visions and languages, might be another less technical way to ask it. |
14 Jan 2012 |
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937 |
So, should we "forge ahead" on the trusted old plan, not somehow causing massive inequality as we destroy the earth for the winners?? |
14 Jan 2012 |
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936 |
There was a time when growth DID "lift all boats", but the data says now it changed, and anyone's growth success costs another's failure. |
14 Jan 2012 |
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935 |
Then you get to asking, if the river of money was manageable at one point, but now become deeper than any dam or channel can constrain, why? |
13 Jan 2012 |
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934 |
Growing rivers of consumption go around conservation or regulation like water around a stick, that only a dam ridge to ridge would restrain. |
13 Jan 2012 |
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933 |
The economic appetites evade how we push them, flowing around barriers like water, as what makes profit seeking markets so successful. |
13 Jan 2012 |
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932 |
Why the system goes the opposite way we think we're pushing it starts with believing, not denying, the data.synapse9.com/pub/EffMultipl… |
13 Jan 2012 |
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931 |
We think opposing "the system" has an effect, but often it's **only where we're looking** so conservation goes with growing waste somehow. |
13 Jan 2012 |
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930 |
@Revkin @keithkloor Well, there's also the older "free content" info. problem, that nature's systems work from the inside, hidden from view. |
13 Jan 2012 |
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929 |
@Revkin @dotearth @story_collider @tvjrennie (of course, thinking of the real world as what we're looking at rather than what our minds see) |
13 Jan 2012 |
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928 |
@Revkin @dotearth @story_collider @tvjrennie So, is the blind side of science that only what our theories *don't control* refers to reality? |
13 Jan 2012 |
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927 |
@STWR_ It's nuts to say ending poverty requires growth, as growth is what caused poverty. Nature is a balance, needing greed and restraint. |
13 Jan 2012 |
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926 |
@Revkin @jimdwyernyt But.. the devil's in the detail, natural gas as a system may produce more CO2 per btu than oil!energy.wilkes.edu/PDFFiles/Repor… |
13 Jan 2012 |
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925 |
@Adbusters #OCCUPYNIGERIA Fine message that working ever harder is just not fun! The question is how to use the profits to heal the process. |
13 Jan 2012 |
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924 |
@NatureNews What, "stuff the ballot box" for science. That's a great idea. Could we also keep social media from inventing its own realities? |
13 Jan 2012 |
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923 |
@InvasiveNotes How the food crisis and energy crisis link exposes "peak everything" as the earth's real limit of money.synapse9.com/pub/ASustInves… |
13 Jan 2012 |
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922 |
@Revkin @whitehouse Investing in growth, while hiding impacts from view, is using our profits to avoid change, not facilitating our change. |
13 Jan 2012 |
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921 |
@Revkin @whitehouse But the plan is still "BAU", for the economy's encroachment on the earth growing forever, trying to keep it out of view. |
13 Jan 2012 |
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920 |
@ClimateReality Being economically efficient, GDP still takes 16oz. of CO2 per $1. So the earth's limit for CO2 is also its limit for money. |
13 Jan 2012 |
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919 |
@ClimateReality Environmental protection hasn't ever protected the environment from economic encroachment, except symbolically. |
13 Jan 2012 |
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918 |
@InvasiveNotes @Pescalune @LPOFrance If you can't see "your" own impacts, they'll be closer to "average" for the system you're in than "0". |
12 Jan 2012 |
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917 |
@InvasiveNotes @Pescalune @LPOFrance The source of the problem isn't damage done, but growing our uses of the earth hoping to not do damage. |
12 Jan 2012 |
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916 |
@InvasiveNotes @Pescalune @LPOFrance A great irony of environmental protection is relieving symptoms diverts action from the problem too... |
12 Jan 2012 |
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915 |
It's very interesting, that a pivotal issue of the extreme right is becoming the sustainability of using profits for profit, costing jobs!! |
11 Jan 2012 |
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914 |
The profits of the old system used to make a sustainable one, will create the only system, as the building of things designed to fail, does. |
11 Jan 2012 |
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913 |
@brookejarvis @DeChristopher Heroism is great, but lacking insight looses effect, so fragmented campaigns compete for shrinking funds. |
11 Jan 2012 |
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912 |
@ClimateReality You need to use the profits of the old system to build the new, but its quite false to say the new can profit like the old. |
11 Jan 2012 |
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911 |
1 The eruptions of life are found, exploring the "S" curves of time, that start with explosions of new relationships, that resolve or not. |
11 Jan 2012 |
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910 |
1 Good natured people stay unaware of their living world since what they see is in their heads, making the erupting changes of life invisible. |
11 Jan 2012 |
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909 |
1 It's the same "mind/world" barrier trapping us idiotic political struggle, from the horrors of Gilgamesh the Bible and Voltaire to today. |
11 Jan 2012 |
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908 |
1 It's good natured people destroying the earth, not recognizing the explosive self-organizing events of nature our lives are built around. |
11 Jan 2012 |
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907 |
1 @postgrowth @jeffhollender Workers seeking maximum returns from a natural world they see only as a resource, WON'T CHANGE A THING. |
11 Jan 2012 |
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906 |
1 Q: Oh! ... heavens, you seem to owe me a nearly infinite amount of money!! A: duhh... OK I guess. I'll work a little harder. |
10 Jan 2012 |
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905 |
1 How many societies grew to destroy their environments and themselves? Seemingly all the ones that tried to measure wealth with math. |
10 Jan 2012 |
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904 |
1 Little doubt **something** will happen to a deranged world intellectual culture whose prosperity is using up stuff running out ever faster. |
10 Jan 2012 |
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903 |
1 Why we really have ever more complex and rapidly changing problems is simple, our building an ever more complex and rapidly changing world. |
10 Jan 2012 |
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902 |
What promotes vast cultures of artificial reality, quackery or not, is dealing with ever more complex problems with ever less attention. |
10 Jan 2012 |
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901 |
@Sheril_ @Revkin Is it #quackery the way social networks redefine how nature works, just by their agreement, accepted by most as if science? |
10 Jan 2012 |
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900 |
@Ethical_Corp The error misleading us on natural gas was... THE USUAL ONE WE MAKE, not looking at it as a whole system.synapse9.com/SEA |
10 Jan 2012 |
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899 |
What makes the world's growing #conflict and #complications so #confusing is our #failure see how it's our #successes directly causing it. |
10 Jan 2012 |
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898 |
The #conflict around the world is mostly from our #successes, growing investment in solutions becoming too complex and conflicted to manage. |
10 Jan 2012 |
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897 |
But is rising #confusion and #conflict around the world being caused by people's #successes or their #failures??? |
10 Jan 2012 |
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896 |
Asking if the brain "knows" anything at all, except its own social constructions, would help reveal the underlying matrix of the real world. |
9 Jan 2012 |
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895 |
Information is a problem for debating how nature's systems work, if that's hidden within them. People then argue fantasies not effects. |
9 Jan 2012 |
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894 |
On average, a $10 purchase, say some wine, really takes the economy making 10lb. of CO2 to deliver to you! What you don't know can hurt... |
9 Jan 2012 |
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893 |
Is the real problem aggregate over-investment, caused by our everyone's effort to maximize their growing investment?ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2012/01/0… |
9 Jan 2012 |
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892 |
The natural limit of profitable growth, as where expanding our consumption of the earth becomes unprofitable, isn't even discussed. #check! |
9 Jan 2012 |
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891 |
It's good natured people, and their prosperity, still leading the exhaustion of the earth in the name of creating plenty, who don't #check. |
9 Jan 2012 |
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890 |
lnkd.in/p2feVH Those are some good indicators, but there's a need to be able to define the turning point, and line not to cross,... |
8 Jan 2012 |
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889 |
So, could the real problem be vast over-investment, naturally caused by maximizing our rate of multiplying investment?ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2012/01/0… |
8 Jan 2012 |
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888 |
@Revkin @politifact Physical progress has limits because addition and subtraction are conserved, so trends change their environments, check! |
8 Jan 2012 |
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887 |
lnkd.in/2qKq-h Animated natural systems also show accumulative design, like the development of natural air currents.... |
7 Jan 2012 |
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886 |
@Revkin @politifact Actually, it's particularly physical directions of progress that become their own impediment, not dreams. Check! |
7 Jan 2012 |
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885 |
@politifact @revkin Does progress naturally become an increasing impediment to progress? The firm scientific answer is "Yes". Please check |
7 Jan 2012 |
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884 |
@Revkin check "Will getting bigger result in difficulty for getting bigger?" "Do we live by contradiction even for things we could check?" |
7 Jan 2012 |
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883 |
General media disclaimer "Given persistent conflict between views of common realities WE PRINT WHAT PAYS, AND STOP LOOKING FOR HOW TO CHECK" |
7 Jan 2012 |
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882 |
A "truth in reporting" disclaimer is needed. "Given conflicting views of common realities "WE PRINT TRUE AND FALSE VIEWS AS EQUALLY VALID" |
7 Jan 2012 |
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881 |
lnkd.in/DMVzFS Accumulative branching is a key feature of all sorts of natural system design, but I think needs to be considered... |
6 Jan 2012 |
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880 |
And in the end, theory still finds, all of nature must be between the lines. |
6 Jan 2012 |
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879 |
With our lives, like anything that uses energy, being some kind of "flame". |
6 Jan 2012 |
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878 |
Energy conservation says "before & after must add up for energy" and Q.M. that "they can't add up for our information". Both seem very true! |
6 Jan 2012 |
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877 |
That science is an art of finding questions you can answer with high confidence, evidently makes it all but totally useless to politicians. |
6 Jan 2012 |
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876 |
An odd reality of politics is "policies" mostly effect the news, and NOT really the economy, an organism "on a tear"... we don't understand. |
5 Jan 2012 |
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875 |
lnkd.in/iTBqiH I wasn't the first to predict the economy's breakdown for the same cause I ultimately singled out as an unavoidable... |
4 Jan 2012 |
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874 |
So, now it's Wednesday, election over, and every question science can't answer is STILL up to politicians and social activists to decide |
4 Jan 2012 |
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873 |
lnkd.in/yJwmbT There are also differences between predicting events and understanding why our economic system is presently failing... |
3 Jan 2012 |
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872 |
lnkd.in/aTV7MU With some people arranging to accumulate their incomes by %'s and others by constant units, I don't see how a... |
3 Jan 2012 |
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871 |
lnkd.in/-wVPzg That's interesting. It's fairly common (six blind men and the elephant) that different valid views of complex... |
3 Jan 2012 |
|
870 |
lnkd.in/UYNX7W Well, if you think of careful forensic detective work to be "qualitative", then I guess so. It's less about... |
2 Jan 2012 |
|
869 |
lnkd.in/KJh_N8 George, The way I apply the physics behind my method (of natural organizational limits to growth) is to then look... |
2 Jan 2012 |
|
868 |
So, better to think of nature as the new information you are missing, and need to find, rather than beliefs based on information of past |
2 Jan 2012 |
|
867 |
What's often bogus in our beliefs is treating trends as nature having fixed rules, when it's the opposite, changing rules that won't last. |
2 Jan 2012 |
|
866 |
When over-invested and expansion isn't making multiplying returns of cheaper stuff but the opposite, invest in solidifying not expanding. |
2 Jan 2012 |
|
865 |
Or.. we could discover that #belief usually produces bogus ideas of the future, wrong directions searching for what NEW path to take. |
2 Jan 2012 |
|
864 |
Here's an idea, ro fix the economy we could replace one guy who has no idea what the problem is with a bunch of others who don't either. |
2 Jan 2012 |
|
863 |
kcrw.com/news/programs/… @LRC The common view of "the disconnect" expressed today is as close to a real understanding of our deep problem as... |
1 Jan 2012 |
|
862 |
@EarthEconomics @evangineer @kalamishere @ClimateSpec@ISEEORG @Moraleconomy @theneweconomics@feasta_tweets No-growth except for money ???? |
28 Dec 2011 |
|
861 |
What society's desire for growing profits runs into... is how it changed the earth, a far bigger "head wind" facing us than Barack imagines. |
27 Dec 2011 |
|
860 |
All society wants from Wall St is ever growing returns for those with savings, and not see the growing impacts. Inequality is one of them. |
27 Dec 2011 |
|
859 |
@adbusters To "flow to where it needs to" #occupy needs insight, ...on how Wall St creates inequality doing exactly what society asks it to. |
27 Dec 2011 |
|
858 |
Even cutting diamonds is "just a little tap" (in just the right direction). But you have to closely study the internal nature of diamonds. |
26 Dec 2011 |
|
857 |
Leaders extol the masses to "all pull together", and treat me as a complete idiot for pointing out we won't get anywhere without wheels. |
26 Dec 2011 |
|
856 |
@Ethical_Corp We **still** do math counting only visible impacts of money (mostly "0"), actually "average" 8000btu/$.synapse9.com/SEA |
24 Dec 2011 |
|
855 |
@Ethical_Corp We **still** count math for increasing impacts more efficiently as a social credit for reducing them, after all. A gold mine! |
24 Dec 2011 |
|
854 |
@Ethical_Corp The end of SRI is surely that new professional money makers in "sustainability" are so good at getting self-contradiction pay. |
24 Dec 2011 |
|
853 |
@Adbusters #Jobcreation IS ONLY DONE FOR PROFIT, which reliably creates competition, but *NOT JOBS*, when the economy is short of resources. |
24 Dec 2011 |
|
852 |
@Adbusters Keeping a job is a struggle too, keeping up with the new competition from #jobcreation,.. our profits for investors get used for. |
24 Dec 2011 |
|
851 |
@Adbusters Well, the "shadow of the market" is in EVERYTHING, as using the market to multiply markets is .. *what we do*. |
24 Dec 2011 |
|
850 |
@InvasiveNotes The ideas of Thales were reversed by Plato and Aristotle, so we now still treat nature as following human ideals. |
23 Dec 2011 |
|
849 |
@InvasiveNotes The first Greek scientist, Thales, discovered if you studied nature as behaving by itself and knew math you could make money. |
23 Dec 2011 |
|
848 |
@InvasiveNotes I would say no, a "thing" is less something *we* can "see, touch or feel", than something with physical behaviors of its own. |
23 Dec 2011 |
|
847 |
@InvasiveNotes A "concerto" is both "thing" and "abstraction", as the word refers to both the physical phenomenon and our ideas about it. |
23 Dec 2011 |
|
846 |
@InvasiveNotes Pi is a very useful abstraction, real to us, but only expressed in nature *by implication* of theory, a mental construct. |
23 Dec 2011 |
|
845 |
@InvasiveNotes You find nature determines things in a way nothing like humans do, and so arrives at quite different results too. |
23 Dec 2011 |
|
844 |
@InvasiveNotes The continuities of natural systems are built differently than continuities of explanation, and it's quite useful to notice. |
23 Dec 2011 |
|
843 |
@InvasiveNotes The "members" and "relationships" between them in any abstract model are still all abstracted information, theory not things. |
23 Dec 2011 |
|
842 |
Only information raising good questions about realities beyond your view is truthful, like signals of change in how nature is responding. |
23 Dec 2011 |
|
841 |
@InvasiveNotes Oh John, think it through. Tensors are abstract images vastly under-representing real subjects, unless by pointing to them. |
23 Dec 2011 |
|
840 |
lnkd.in/trHWDQ It would be "the Dutch" and any others who see the profit opportunity in a market cornered naturally by demand... | 2011 |
|
839 |
@InvasiveNotes Oh yes, forgot to put in "changing" in that, as natural forms are changing everywhere at once and information is fixed. | 22 Dec 2011 |
|
838 |
@InvasiveNotes Oh, why all
information is faulty is it's abstracted, from complex relationships in
complex environments stripped away. |
22 Dec 2011 |
|
837 |
Lnkd.in/iW_PcM I added the following as a comment to the
original article from Forcasting.Net "Predicting the Global Economic... |
22 Dec 2011 |
|
836 |
Now, then... why is it that the world expert community
consensus is that we can reduce our footprint on the earth by expanding more
rapidly? |
22 Dec 2011 |
|
835 |
If God isn't what makes it *so visibly clear* only
multiplying is profoundly *not fruitful*, then he's just another of our
self-deceptions. |
22 Dec 2011 |
|
834 |
If God isn't within the resolution of new beginnings by
harmonizing with what they touch, he's really missing out on something. |
22 Dec 2011 |
|
833 |
If God isn't within the bursts of new relationships
that begin all the large and small storms of live, he's missing out on
something. |
22 Dec 2011 |
|
832 |
Why look for it in our words instead of in life's
things. Why not look more deeply into what it is in life that inspires them? |
22 Dec 2011 |
|
831 |
Why not look for it in the immediacy of life itself,
not the retelling of theory and fable we invent, but in the very brilliance
of reality? |
22 Dec 2011 |
|
830 |
Why not look for the pulse of the universe in the
bursts of innovation that begin any event, visibly what makes life and time
so "lively". |
22 Dec 2011 |
|
829 |
Why, though? Don't all people deeply desire to put
their finger on the pulse of the universe? |
21 Dec 2011 |
|
828 |
Maybe it's that human culture has no connections at all
with the living world it's part of... I do feel like
such an alien bringing it up. |
21 Dec 2011 |
|
827 |
It turns science into both an actual and metaphorical
treasure hunt, for hints on where to look for the secrets of our living
world! |
21 Dec 2011 |
|
826 |
An ideal place to look for missing information, on how
nature "connects the dots", is studying the growth of new
environmental systems. |
21 Dec 2011 |
|
825 |
Searching for information you're missing is a task of
discovering how nature "connects the dots", not how one's own
social values would. |
21 Dec 2011 |
|
824 |
Is it better to search for information you're missing,
or a theory to make sense of information you have? The latter is surely
easier! |
21 Dec 2011 |
|
823 |
Lnkd.in/6ZGmrg
Missing from world concern for the food crisis is our growing food/fuel
demand, with no regulatory or supply solution. |
21 Dec 2011 |
|
822 |
Spreading our most important social values will never
be heard by nature, *unless* we assign value to understanding her processses. |
20 Dec 2011 |
|
821 |
information theory proves that
the perfect imitation is the real thing. But what do you need to see that all
information is really faulty?? |
20 Dec 2011 |
|
820 |
It's the natural meaning of "maturity", when
energy use stops growing and real knowledge growth
begins, stabilizing scale to grow in wisdom. |
20 Dec 2011 |
|
819 |
An odd hidden fact of life is what money measures is
exchanges for energy use, REAL"knowledge
economy" grows on a no-growth economy. |
20 Dec 2011 |
|
818 |
Like we could have ever improving healthcare for fixed
cost too, defining that as the need instead of multiplying profits to break
the bank. |
20 Dec 2011 |
|
817 |
We could have economies of growing knowledge, ever
broader and deeper on a constant budget as a future, just not growing profits
and energy. |
20 Dec 2011 |
|
816 |
@tedtalks @innovatorsblog That we don't share minds, we can't check
any other, for the whole self-responsiveness of all living things. |
19 Dec 2011 |
|
815 |
You can see time as an addition process in growth,
cycles of stimulus & response add a little each time, going in circles to
get somewhere. |
19 Dec 2011 |
|
814 |
Being unaware of time as a process of addition also
hides why earning by %'s and by $'s diverges, as the real source of wealth
disparity. |
19 Dec 2011 |
|
813 |
Mistaking efficient increase with decrease, for saving
the earth, comes with living in the "ever-present", unaware of time
as addition. |
19 Dec 2011 |
|
812 |
How did doing development that adds to our impacts on
the earth so efficiently it is said to reduce them... get called
"sustainability"?? |
19 Dec 2011 |
|
811 |
Any time contentious questions come up, someone seems
to be arguing their imagination is without bound. Shouldn't that make us
suspicious? |
19 Dec 2011 |
|
810 |
Steiglitz now saying US
economy in drift toward depression. wnyc.org/shows/bl/2011/… ..Or is it simply
nature's way of shedding excess demand? |
19 Dec 2011 |
|
809 |
Human designs are SO unresponsive to what's hidden from
view. To nature's magically sustained bursts of organization NOTHING seems
hidden. |
19 Dec 2011 |
|
808 |
@Frances_Coppola @edwardnh The 5000 years of debt have also been turmoil,
misunderstanding "be fruitful and multiply"..
creditwritedowns.com/2011/12/the-hi… |
19 Dec 2011 |
|
807 |
Why life is so magical, is partly that how the myriad
natural systems behave by themselves, beyond our view, is itself truly
magical. |
18 Dec 2011 |
|
806 |
@yesmagazine - A small giant
problem with Kortens & #Occupy just blaming
"the bandits". yesmagazine.org/people-power/d… |
18 Dec 2011 |
|
805 |
The values #TEEB puts on nature also miss the impacts
of money hidden by a lack of receipts. synapse9.com/SEA
#TED on.ted.com/A5wm |
18 Dec 2011 |
|
804 |
@CapInstitute On #Keystone,
Obama just needs to do the math. A greatly expanding commitment to outmoded
technology won't be profitable. |
18 Dec 2011 |
|
803 |
@LarissaDrekonja .. and when people don't care,.. then
count on nature to not let that to continue, as not caring is just
abdication. |
18 Dec 2011 |
|
802 |
But society is unified in asking gov.
and biz. to continually grow our profits, incomes
and demands on the earth, destabilizing the earth. |
18 Dec 2011 |
|
801 |
People don't actually need ever doubling incomes, so
finding how that is destabilizing the earth is a signal to stop, not itself a
problem. |
18 Dec 2011 |
|
800 |
What ties money to reality is how we use it,
destabilizing our world most directly using it to multiply our instructions
for our world? |
18 Dec 2011 |
|
799 |
Both common sense and calculus say you don't slow
things down being efficient at speeding them up, ..what
our money myths have us ALL doing. |
16 Dec 2011 |
|
798 |
If pushing harder earns new penalties rather than
rewards, it's often a sign of natural resistance, not a call to sacrifice and
push harder. |
16 Dec 2011 |
|
797 |
@postgrowth @socialadvoc8
Adapting to forces beyond your control is very natural, but in our case also
lets them keep getting worse. |
16 Dec 2011 |
|
796 |
Renewables won't give you limitless growing energy, but
more sustainable jobs than dirty oil pipelines to be abandoned to save the
climate. |
15 Dec 2011 |
|
795 |
@cjeder #Occupy's policy is
"everybody's pissed" a true self-affirming social value, not an insight
into what to do, so it isn't strategy. |
14 Dec 2011 |
|
794 |
Basically, regulators haven't noticed that the earth
has started producing less, so the banks suffer from their own taking of ever
more. |
14 Dec 2011 |
|
793 |
By avoiding policy debate the #Occupy policy becomes
"everyone made happy", and nearly all agreeing on a range of
contradictory things. |
14 Dec 2011 |
|
792 |
The basic problem is trusting things that work in our
heads to work in the world. Nature is simply not persuaded by our social
battles. |
14 Dec 2011 |
|
791 |
Social values actually don't make good economic theory,
wishful thinking replacing what has to work. Wish the economists knew that
too. |
14 Dec 2011 |
|
790 |
So in our continuing war with nature we're losing
decisive battles, society consumed with contradictory policy no one checks
with reality. |
14 Dec 2011 |
|
789 |
The social value *everyone* agrees on is "things
should work", but then never check if their social policy would have
that effect. |
14 Dec 2011 |
|
788 |
Investors react even worse, of
course, to finding their natural fiduciary duty is to spend their profits so
the earth isn't over-invested. |
13 Dec 2011 |
|
787 |
So, my question is why our culture so afraid of
reality, when that is clearly not a diversion, but the only way out of a jam. |
13 Dec 2011 |
|
786 |
One glaring one is the world use of efficiency to
expand production, treated as blasphemy by greens claiming the opposite for
consumption!! |
13 Dec 2011 |
|
785 |
When the schemes of the "good guys" are as mad or madder than those of the "bad guys", then
you have a real problem! |
13 Dec 2011 |
|
784 |
@giyom - yes,
"conquering death" with average impacts of using 8000btu, like
1/2kg CO2 & paving more earth, per $1. synapse9.com/design/dollars… |
13 Dec 2011 |
|
783 |
I mention it, as the world DOES measure the energy use
for products as "0" when lacking information, not
"average"...http://synapse9.com/SEA |
12 Dec 2011 |
|
782 |
Like treating a lack of information as proof of what
you like, with the energy cost of using money = 0 not "average", if
you can't trace it. |
12 Dec 2011 |
|
781 |
A telling example is treating a lack of information as
proof of what we like, the energy cost of using money being 0, if you don't
see it. |
12 Dec 2011 |
|
780 |
How people don't think straight is seen in our not
using reasoning to fill the gaps in our reasoning, but self-affirming
guesswork instead. |
12 Dec 2011 |
|
779 |
@Revkin Andy, nyti.ms/rO4O2k
is so clearly dimwitted, to ignore rates of change entirely, I'm shocked you
don't offer it as ironic |
12 Dec 2011 |
|
778 |
@CapInstitute @Adbusters -So why wouldn't it be worth studying the
natural economics of the real world? (To see what dreams can be real) |
12 Dec 2011 |
|
777 |
But the question is does ANYONE want out of the mind's
traps of artificial reality enough to escape them, and would that change
anything? |
12 Dec 2011 |
|
776 |
#CSR #SRI ...well, of course, not to overlook that the
whole PURPOSE of #consciousness is essentially to let us bask in
self-deception... |
12 Dec 2011 |
|
775 |
But GDP *IS* *REAL end goods and services*, in units
scaled to enduring values like food and fuel, with GDP & impacts seen
growing together. |
12 Dec 2011 |
|
774 |
People want "#decoupling" money from impacts
to work. The impacts of money aren't what you see, though, but what average
people do with it. |
12 Dec 2011 |
|
773 |
"Green Climate Fund" will reduce carbon
locally to promote it with growth globally, the real source of ALL our
conflicts with the earth. |
12 Dec 2011 |
|
772 |
People wouldn't need to become ever more productive to
survive, if their profits weren't used for #feedback driving the entire
economy to. |
11 Dec 2011 |
|
771 |
Being consumed with continuing the main problem, ever
growing productivity using up the earth for profit, it seems all anyone has
time for. |
11 Dec 2011 |
|
770 |
@Revkin @brodernyt No
timeline for CO2 works while ignoring the 80% of energy demand for uncounted
business services. synapse9.com/SEA |
11 Dec 2011 |
|
769 |
That business services all promote our main economic
purpose, growth, and ever multiplying resource demand,...
then seems hidden from view. |
11 Dec 2011 |
|
768 |
The REAL reasons for energy demand now persistently
exceeding supply is the ~80% of demand hidden in business services, and what
THEY do. |
11 Dec 2011 |
|
767 |
So the energy discussion uses highly
"asymmetric" data, as if the ~20% of business energy demand from
technology worked in total isolation. |
11 Dec 2011 |
|
766 |
Businesses record the energy demands of technology, but
can't for the FAR larger energy use for outsourced
services. synapse9.com/SEA |
11 Dec 2011 |
|
765 |
Social networks, like religions and even science,
create their stories of reality using information they have, overlooking what
they don't. |
11 Dec 2011 |
|
764 |
Lnkd.in/dNfJPp Carl, I do generally agree, that our
subjective view gives a subjective direction to the theories we develop.
One... |
9 Dec 2011 |
|
763 |
@ClimateReality Clean energy
would be cleaner... if it substituted for dirty energy rather than just added
to it and growing energy impacts. |
8 Dec 2011 |
|
762 |
@johnmsmart John Smart - Nice
start. No more corporate personhood in
LA, Unanimous plt.me/MjEyMDE2 |
8 Dec 2011 |
|
761 |
What @Adbusters and #Occupy
don't get is why finance has to get ever bigger ever faster, society's mistaken demand for ever growing profits. |
8 Dec 2011 |
|
760 |
What the #TeaParty doesn't
get is things can't work as for a small society in a big world, as it's the
costs of the reverse we're hitting. |
8 Dec 2011 |
|
759 |
Lnkd.in/vzcWka Well, James, I'm often in that same position.
What I usually find is if people can't agree on what the subject... |
8 Dec 2011 |
|
758 |
Lnkd.in/X95pac
Yes, we should also consider as a core question of systems thinking whether
natural phenomena are by their nature... |
8 Dec 2011 |
|
757 |
Lnkd.in/3RvMRE
What I'm trying to raise is the difference between "natural
phenomena" that work by their own complex processes,... |
8 Dec 2011 |
|
756 |
Lnkd.in/SJqsSg James, A growth is a kind of system
construction process, in which the organization of the system develops... |
7 Dec 2011 |
|
755 |
Lnkd.in/Ah4eyZ
James, Virtually every growth system is a classic example of history
dependent distributed self-organization.... |
7 Dec 2011 |
|
754 |
Lnkd.in/8VnTb2
James, you seem to be reaching, to seemingly say humans should be exempt from
the observable physical properties of... |
7 Dec 2011 |
|
753 |
Lnkd.in/pjZxcT James, NECSI seems to be a scientific
organization, which studies complex systems, including those that become... |
7 Dec 2011 |
|
752 |
@Adbusters If #Occupy is all
about systemic change, how come its supporters don't talk to systemic
thinkers, just social thinkers? |
6 Dec 2011 |
|
751 |
Lnkd.in/kGExfy P.S. Elan, Just to
address one of your particular points, that I agree does *seem* to contradict
the view that... |
6 Dec 2011 |
|
750 |
We just don't live in that world any more, when a
little productivity improvement would keep uncorking limitless growing
resources. |
6 Dec 2011 |
|
749 |
Lnkd.in/8a_B28
Elan, I do agree with you on the success of
democratic government to successively improve the lives of people.... |
6 Dec 2011 |
|
748 |
@Revkin @wihbey @YaleE360 -
All that social self-affirmation, neatly avoiding discussion of THE MAIN
FORCING FACTOR, growing money. |
6 Dec 2011 |
|
747 |
Information models *always* fail when growing
complexity for physical systems goes beyond the limit of information in the
models. |
6 Dec 2011 |
|
746 |
The conceptual error in fixes for "containing a
blow-out" is failing to address BOTH the information model AND the
physical system. |
6 Dec 2011 |
|
745 |
A strategic error in fixes for "containing a
blow-out" is doing it to raise the pressure at which rupture will occur;
band-aids for a bomb! |
6 Dec 2011 |
|
744 |
"Fixers" assure us "it will never happen
again", followed by ever bigger and bigger financial crises, nature's
way of marking our exam. |
6 Dec 2011 |
|
743 |
@Adbusters Oh gosh no. The
"long night of the left" won't *never* end, as long at it's a static social philosophy not a discovery
process. |
6 Dec 2011 |
|
742 |
Lnkd.in/VVfeA6
Elenor, You mention Brazil as a success story. If
you recall our own economy had a quite long run of "lifting all... |
5 Dec 2011 |
|
741 |
lnkd.in/i-rQ73 Elad, I sympathize with your difficulty in understanding
the physics, and what happens at the natural limits of... |
5 Dec 2011 |
|
740 |
Lnkd.in/k9HfSu
Well, but is the defensiveness of social networks that find themselves under
attack "natural" or just a "symptom".... |
5 Dec 2011 |
|
739 |
#FiatCurrency helps multiply
unreal promises of wealth and earnings. Which #feedback loops do do that, and what rules would eliminate them? |
5 Dec 2011 |
|
738 |
Looking for better promises of wealth, we are confused
by procedures offering reliable #feedback for "promises just too good to
be true". |
5 Dec 2011 |
|
737 |
After centuries of financial panics, our fixes still
rely on promises "too good to be true", causing greater panics. synapse9.com/signals/2011/1… |
5 Dec 2011 |
|
736 |
We haven't pinned down why our accounts for wealth
create illusory wealth, so our faith based procedures still let bad faith
multiply. |
5 Dec 2011 |
|
735 |
One reason we keep talking past each other, is mostly
assuming our opinions are reality, since we determine reality from our
opinions... ;-) |
4 Dec 2011 |
|
734 |
Lnkd.in/pHQhEw I hope we don't drop the discussion of which
particular financial procedures make stabilizing our financial system... |
4 Dec 2011 |
|
733 |
Quite oddly most NON-INTELLECTUALS think using up
depleting resources ever faster for prosperity is a **very bad plan**, but
not "EXPERTS". |
4 Dec 2011 |
|
732 |
Could it be "leading experts" all draw the
world "inside out", the earth as an idea projected from their
thought, and so deny all reality? |
4 Dec 2011 |
|
731 |
Why is it even so rare for INTELLECTUALS go beyond just
harping from private points of view, on the obvious singular calamity of our
time? |
4 Dec 2011 |
|
730 |
Why is SCIENCE (or the PRESS, or BUSINESS, or the
PUBLIC) so SILENT ON EVER EXPANDING use of the earth changing how we can use
it?? |
4 Dec 2011 |
|
729 |
That intellects draw reality as projected by their
minds is made whole again, experiencing back and forth, mind as projected by
nature too. |
Dec 4 2011 |
|
728 |
#Intellectuals are nearly ALL fooled, really, by "slowing down the
speeding up" having BOTH THE DIRECT AND REVERSE EFFECTS of
"addition". |
Dec 4 2011 |
|
727 |
Quite oddly most NON-INTELLECTUALS think using up
depleting resources ever faster for prosperity is a **very bad plan**, but
not "EXPERTS". |
Dec 4 2011 |
|
726 |
Could it be "leading experts" all draw the
world "inside out", the earth as an idea projected from their
thought, and so deny all reality? |
|
|
725 |
Why is it even so rare for INTELLECTUALS
go beyond just harping from private points of view, on the obvious singular
calamity of our time? |
|
|
724 |
Why is SCIENCE (or the PRESS, or
BUSINESS, or the PUBLIC) so SILENT ON EVER EXPANDING use of the earth
changing how we can use it?? |
|
|
723 |
So, if #FiatCurrency multiplies money and debt in all the wrong hands, which links
on its #feedback loops do you hook up
some where else? |
|
|
722 |
@CapInstitute Sounds like an interesting opportunity,... but Bluestockings,
172 Allen St. is a trek, far lower East Side.. |
|
|
721 |
Simple reality is: MONEY = requests for
delivering physical goods and services, and rules totally change as that goes
from "SMALL" to "BIG". |
|
|
720 |
lnkd.in/GemwAy A simple, and seemingly valid, overview seems to be that money
has real value only when it for corresponds to... |
|
|
719 |
lnkd.in/g_qi6V A simple, and seemingly valid, overview seems to be that money
has real value only when it for corresponds to... |
|
|
718 |
The ANTIDOTE TO MADNESS is in realizing
definitions are immaterial, and have value only THROUGH material chains that
can't be defined. |
|
|
717 |
Odd thing about real cultural crises,
terrible thing to waste but they drive people INTO madness not sober them up,
much of the time. |
|
|
716 |
But, as you see.., "finance" is
a "procedure", not a "person" so our fault is failing to
question our own common purposes, NOT misbehaviors. |
|
|
715 |
That finance puts money into the cash
economy ONLY to take more out, starts as stimulating and ends by draining our
whole system of life. |
|
|
714 |
lnkd.in/eZ8756 Well, it used to be thought that a
workforce needed to be mobile, so it was good for them to have an
expensive... |
|
|
713 |
lnkd.in/P3GCbd That's the trick. Natural phenomena
are indefinable, as you quickly find out when you study their detailed... |
|
|
712 |
lnkd.in/44Dsj6 Why? Doesn't financial capital go
wherever it can get the best return, so everyone's pension funds then... |
|
|
711 |
lnkd.in/q3JCHJ I'm not sure, but it's not clear
whether you are equating information with energy, and I certainly would find
that... |
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710 |
@SteadyStateEcon The people long predicting the
crisis, though, mostly keep promoting popular social solutions that don't
address the cause. |
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709 |
lnkd.in/BiX6gB I think there is still a conspicuous
"loose end" in asking where the distorted demand for real estate
came from.... |
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708 |
lnkd.in/ravHEk The simpler way to say it is that
"energy" refers to defined kind of information about a physical
subject that... |
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707 |
lnkd.in/ZmxZ54 As a physical scientist I think the
beginning of science is the step *before* asking "why". That's to closely... |
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706 |
To "create jobs" the best
profit is in jobs like "high-technology" that very visibly
cannibalize "mid-technology" jobs. No one notices. |
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705 |
We know from Econ 101 that new jobs
always displace old jobs, either for a net gain or a net loss, no politician
studies or mentions!! |
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704 |
lnkd.in/xE-cFz One needs to not forget for
following the chains of effects with economies to "follow the
money" as well as to... |
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703 |
lnkd.in/aY3dxH I use the information rules of
physics to help me ask better questions about individual events, like a
forensic... |
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702 |
lnkd.in/yV76-q Hmmm... most
people complain that I'm much too specific, though the unfamiliar systems
physics approach I use is... |
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701 |
Why our limit of "low hanging
fruit" is "falling off the ladder"...natural limits of reach
in controlling the unknown.synapse9.com/signals/2011/1… |
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700 |
lnkd.in/V7xjxi James, You're correct that the
intent of the economy's design is "based on ideals of goodness" but
it contains a... |
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699 |
lnkd.in/uQyGwT Well, it's likely we are
interpreting each other's words differently, and not understanding quite what
they refer... |
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698 |
lnkd.in/yuB6AV I think Yaneer
would agree that whether the system meets everyone's needs or not is not a
scientific question. His... |
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697 |
@Ethical_Corp Why
impacts grow faster than the restraint is that MOST ARE NATURALLY
UNTRACEABLE. synapse9.com/SEAethicalcorp.com/governance-reg… |
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696 |
@yesmagazine The
universal trap at the end of "low hanging fruit" is "falling
off the ladder", rising risk and reduced energy to respond. |
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695 |
Endless fictions, making our stories
"look good" and "feel good", while dodging the reality
well shy of "being good", lead to dead ends. |
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694 |
Then... why aren't drug consumers accessories to the crimes of the drug cartels,
as "environmental impacts" of purchases, like any other? |
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693 |
@STWR_ "Real
world theory" comes from clear observation not social self-affirmation,
as most"expert" and "dissenting
theory" both come from. |
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692 |
@STWR_ ???
But "economists from around the world" are the experts who made
this mess!! We need people who see the world not only a theory. |
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691 |
@ClimateReality @IEA_OECD Oddly..clean
energy is NOT USED TO REPLACE fossil fuels, but to ADD TO AND ACCELERATE our
alteration of the earth. |
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690 |
@postgrowth We
FAIL if we trust the #artismal to sustain complex, universities,
information tools, society, etclexiconofsustainability.com |
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689 |
@timepaystime @jfnoubel Finding
your way is NOT finding your voice alone, both REQUIRE finding and exploring
your PATH in nature. |
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688 |
@OccupyWallSt @OccupyWallStNYC WE need to DO it, not just agree to
complain... but to Prick the bubble or Bleed it???synapse9.com/signals/2011/1… |
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687 |
@arcticfutures @TanjaHichert -
but @TEEB,
doesn't use SEA yet,for
the shares of known but not traceable impacts.synapse9.com/SEA |
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686 |
...then the other detail, taking
efficiency to the extreme, everyone the world over pushed, in effect, to
"make bricks without straw". |
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685 |
Nature's new plagues on our house,
terrorism and "everwar", exhausting the
earth, financial and political chaos, degrading work and family. |
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684 |
Societies consumed by plagues from their
own greed, their positive #feedbacks pushed
out of control, a historically common societal disease. |
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683 |
Is the "Exodus" story about
Egypt? It's the reverse moral tale of "Babel", a society consumed
by plagues from its own greed, that escaped. |
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682 |
#feedbacks What
you *use money for* trumps where you get it. You get energy from the exchange
economy, and then give it in the love economy. |
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681 |
Problem #feedbacks for
me, why my pointing out curiously useful gaps in our thinking seems mostly
used to show people what to cover up. |
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680 |
Money hides lots of #feedbacks, like why it can matter little
where you get or spend your money, *if what you use it for adds up*. |
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679 |
#NoThanksFor media, bloggers, commentators,
politicians who filter out the obvious major questions that might cost them
market share to ask. |
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678 |
#NoThanksFor social networks that treat finding
fault as all there is to simplifying a world, that
somehow got MUCH too complex. |
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677 |
#NoThanksFor social networks that just make up
their own realities, like the fiction that we use efficiency for consuming
less not more! |
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676 |
#NoThanksFor experts, anchors, consultants,
regulators, theorists, specialists all, with no theory working but something
else is at fault. |
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675 |
#NoThanksFor pension funds devoted to the
"fiduciary" obligation to maximize returns and send our children's
jobs overseas. |
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674 |
#NoThanksFor a culture all tied up in it's made
up realities, displaying no sense but "wrong direction" |
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673 |
@TIME @bryanrwalsh But
pepper spray *IS* a vegetable, it's only a matter of words. No need to check
the facts against what's real. |
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672 |
@InvasiveNotes Hmm.. guess that's like conserving the resources we know about,
as if we weren't laying waste to the greater ones we don't. |
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671 |
lnkd.in/uRhryZ I share Yaneer's
view that the problem the "Occupy" movement points to is real and
critical to respond to. It's... |
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670 |
@postgrowth @adbusters So
our society is going mad. With our solutions being the real problem scapegoating replaces the search for answers. |
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669 |
@postgrowth @adbusters Our
consumption keeps growing by the earnings from it being added to investments
in it. That's the physical cause. |
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668 |
@postgrowth @adbusters So
your real total impacts on the earth are in scale with your *income*,
regularly ~8000btu/$.synapse9.com/SEA |
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667 |
@postgrowth @adbusters One
misunderstanding in the idea of #buynothingday is that everyone spends their whole
income anyway!! |
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666 |
@Revkin @guardian @keithkloor Giving
up on dealing with clear realities is another sign of madness in social
networks.synapse9.com/signals/2011/1… |
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665 |
@jonnypeace @keithkloor @postgrowth @everyone...
I think we all need to find a good test for identifying mad societies.synapse9.com/signals/2011/1… |
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664 |
@postgrowth Why
is reality so anti-social? You're clearly selling false worlds if it's about
floods of limitless opportunity. |
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663 |
lnkd.in/gxyKap Well, yes of course. That's why I
termed my first paper on the subject "The Infinite Society, growth
induced... |
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662 |
@Revkin @wordle @realclimate -
A nice display of the words used, but the SUBTEXT of making the world safe
for endless growth is the killer. |
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661 |
@Ethical_Corp "Sustainable
supply chains" is "sustaining growth", so addressing visible
impacts as you multiply the much larger hidden ones. |
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660 |
@postgrowth Brock
is glib with pop social theory. Real self regulating economies just STOP
growing as they get BIG.synapse9.com/issues/EarthBu… |
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659 |
@Revkin @wordle @realclimate Preventing
climate change will still accelerate the economic destruction of the earth,
though. Wazzup?? |
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658 |
The problem with productivity is the
profits drive the appetites ahead of the needs.., so people take on ever
greater risks to stand still. |
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657 |
Small things that get big just have to
stop. Doesn't all the magical thinking of the magical thinkers arguing with
that just waste time?? |
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656 |
We may have infinite concepts of each
other and the earth, but our talents and the earth remain finite, don't they? |
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655 |
@prabhupingali But what's the answer for increasing
global demand on resources already being over-depleted. Who do you take them
from? |
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654 |
@Ethical_Corp Re:
'Tobin tax', in case not clear, "NOT taxing trades but divesting some
gains", sends same money to the people not the gov. |
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653 |
@Ethical_Corp The
'Tobin tax' seems brilliantly idiotic. The sure and steady way is NOT taxing
trades but to require divesting some gains. |
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652 |
lnkd.in/7g9qcs I agree that a "whole
systems" view is more likely to give useful results, but sometimes one
has to spend a good... |
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651 |
In physical reality... as an end to
growth, the principle of investment reverses, and THEN "the best is yet
to come".synapse9.com/issues/NatDevl… |
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650 |
I've been studying the interaction for 40
years. The social networks won't explore nature's new rules, just new excuses
to fit the old ones. |
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649 |
So...basically, we're completely screwed.
No eyes, no brain, dreamed up solutions making it worse. Need some sort of
"hail Mary pass"... |
|
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648 |
Nature changed reality as we went from
small to big. Social networks started creating ones
of their own, excluding the explorers of nature. |
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647 |
Why we got socially correct policy to be
"anti-physical" and physically correct policy to be
"anti-social" is your first advanced homework. |
|
|
646 |
Sustainability is feel good policy, easy
to check for that, but promotes growth so backfires for conserving the earth,
disastrously. |
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645 |
Social policy relabeled
"sustainability", gave us a certain method of speeding up economic
energy use to slow it down.synapse9.com/pub/EffMultipl… |
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644 |
Part of the dilemma is our sustainability
science policy coming from social activists, who are unaware of how the
physical world works. |
|
|
643 |
The disaster is that virtually all the
physically correct solutions to our "wicked problem" are
anti-social. We are NOT learning as we go. |
|
|
642 |
@BillGates ALL the popular renewable energy
solutions are designed make our energy crisis worse, dependency on
multiplying energy use. |
|
|
641 |
When nature's rules change social rules
don't, so social policy isn't physically correct, and correct physical policy
is anti-social. Crash! |
|
|
640 |
The conversation is missing that the
rules change as you go from small to big. That's
what all would agree, IF we were learning as we go. |
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|
639 |
Just take me as an explorer, a source of
rather good questions to take to heart. We need fresh insight. Our social
values are misleading us. |
|
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638 |
@Ethical_Corp -
A big hole in the conservation strategy is pointed out by new research...
growing hidden impacts!ethicalcorp.com/communications… |
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|
637 |
lnkd.in/wpnG45 Yes, complex systems are learning
networks, but when their learning is hampered, the question posed is
"what are... |
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636 |
#Occopy needs to tap the brains knowing the
procedures to change to turn a runaway growth system off. Every cell relies
on the whole body. |
|
|
635 |
What's so foolish about #Occupy is
that global financial systems respond to social pressure no more than to new
colors on their computers. |
|
|
634 |
To alter our fate put gifts to good use.
Divesting profits removes the cause of extreme inequality and fatally growing
strain on the earth. |
|
|
633 |
Without explorers social networks are
dead in the water, prone to be thrown by waves of change, like those from
**OUR BIG SPLASH** on earth. |
|
|
632 |
Because all social networks make up their
own mental realities, only their explorers keep them barely aware of the
world outside. |
|
|
631 |
What I'm actually looking for is other people curious to look where they're not sure
what they'll find, real explorers of the world. |
|
|
630 |
What I'm actually looking for is NOT an
impossibly complex society for impossibly simple people, who can see nothing
but their own beliefs. |
|
|
629 |
Why look for the
problems your solutions cause?? It's so unpopular to do so, and
treated with such visceral disdain, it does seem perverse. |
|
|
628 |
So sadly predictable over thousands of
years, productive societies great with the first task, just don't see the
next one coming. |
|
|
627 |
Great societies meet problems they can't
solve if "productivity" is only for the problems they start with,
not the ones they'll run into. |
|
|
626 |
Historians will look back and see, we
kept trying solutions making our problems ever worse, caught asking the wrong
question to the end. |
|
|
625 |
The problem with our brains is expecting
all that matters to fit inside, when BIG parts of nature can only be sensed
by looking outside. |
|
|
624 |
As we change the earth we want core
values to steer us right. But the problem now is trusted beliefs we can't
check, steering us all wrong, |
|
|
623 |
Rules aren't what makes
life fun, but we keep needing more and more, multiplying with money. No fun |
|
|
622 |
@postgrowth Post
growth fails to be sustainable, you know, for a society that continues to
rely on multiplying money. You GOTTA fix that. |
|
|
621 |
It’s often not obvious how to “get smart”
when your society’s been so dumb. |
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|
620 |
#Occupy The
great thoughts in our minds do feel infinite. Is that what leaves Wall Street
too proud or confused to admit the earth isn't? |
|
|
619 |
#Occupy Should
get smart! Rising costs of being fooled by money, like efficiency to make
exploitation more profitable.synapse9.com/pub/EffMultipl… |
|
|
618 |
@Storify War in Vietnam stopped due to rising
costs, protests pointed out. Now #Occupy exposes
rising cost of money pillaging the earth. |
|
|
617 |
Mad as hatters on earth, our way of
preventing climate change for profit, to maximize growth rate of energy use
and the impacts of our uses. |
|
|
616 |
The problems of "ever more"
just get "ever worse", is what anyone sees joining nature's
"social group", a very tough sell for our society's. |
|
|
615 |
How DO we respond to growing up with
false purposes, the false ideal of "ever more" and the quick fixes
for its ever exploding problems?? |
|
|
614 |
@freakonomics There's
TREMENDOUS value found in "worthless" study of your own purposes,
to see if achieving them makes your problems worse. |
|
|
613 |
Looking around without your usual
assumptions, a break from boredom, a refreshing escape, a critical service to
your network. |
|
|
612 |
People seem to agree the fatal flaws in
how we're fixing things are real, but then go where that won't be pointed out
rather than help. |
|
|
611 |
@BBCRBlack For guiding "expert-ism's"
of ALL kinds, the cure isn't a science of what rules to follow but for seeing
what rules are changing. |
|
|
610 |
@BBCRBlack "Climate scepticism"
has more in common with all "ism's",
reconstructing reality to suite a social network, and its own nature. |
|
|
609 |
So it ends up being not a science of what
rules nature is following, but one of discovering what ones she's changing... |
|
|
608 |
What an honest person of computer then
finds is, "Gee, what causes change in nature and in our stories are
*completely* different!!" |
|
|
607 |
Nature uses growth to build things, so
growth curves make smart people or computers ask "what's building",
to then try to look and see. |
|
|
606 |
It's just more evidence that the world
either doesn't now or never worked the way the experts think, leaving people
to just scramble. |
|
|
605 |
The problem with debt is the experts keep
selling us bets that just don't pan out, taking their profit without sharing
in the risks at all. |
|
|
604 |
That renewables don't displace, but add
to, fossil fuels is a sad fact of how efficiency just multiplies demand.synapse9.com/pub/EffMultipl… |
|
|
603 |
Not understanding the problem, 4 decades
of growing alternative fuel use has left our growing rate of fossil fuel use
the same! |
|
|
602 |
@Revkin No
risk.. but the big one,
that feeding a growth system new energy accelerates its expansion, total
energy use, and total impacts. |
|
|
601 |
@Adbusters well... to be a revolution #Occupy mainly
needs to find what changes whole envionmental
systems not in anyone's control, insight. |
|
|
600 |
#NOVA Being
unable to distinguish local physical processes from global statistical rules.. seems actually why we can't
understanding change. |
|
|
599 |
#NOVA -
A dual reality does it, natural behavior of local physical processes
contrasted with the natural description of it with statistics. |
|
|
598 |
#NOVA But
what then explains the bursts of original organizational growth readily seen
at every scale of behavior? Have an elegant answer? |
|
|
597 |
@MarkH603 @markmykleby @revkin @makower @slim_lim ..Oh gosh, Slaughter's
"strategic narrative" still has everyone multiplying everything!! |
|
|
596 |
@blietaer but nature has a way to fool the
fool, make him spend his due, and balance the books short of infinity. No
name as yet ¸¸¸.•´ Ż |
|
|
595 |
#NOVA ...
one wonders what planet they think they live on, one that always follows
their rules?? Or one just letting them make up their
own? |
|
|
594 |
#NOVA ...
but really, would the originator of statistical physics bother with objecting
to uncertainty?? Or is that more likely a revision? |
|
|
593 |
#NOVA ...but
then if ALL of nature and the whole of the universe too were in our heads,
our predictions would actually BE it's
causation! |
|
|
592 |
#NOVA hmmm...
Was he perhaps complaining about the common presumption that our predictions
are the source of causation in nature??? |
|
|
591 |
#NOVA Hey,
Einstein really did think the then new philosophy of theoretical physics was
bunk, a dream, and no one knows quite what he meant. |
|
|
590 |
#NOVA What
madness have we on TV, a universe of theory that
conflicts with every sense? Must be the mad scientists saving us yet again. |
|
|
589 |
@aleksj @ungrok What
inspired my study of nature's multi-scale designs was the eventfulness of
real systems so missing from our theories. |
|
|
588 |
@storyofstuff ...then
the Story of Broke - Part II (the end of broke), the True Whole Story of
Debt! synapse9.com/signals/2011/1… |
|
|
587 |
@NRDC Saving
the climate, forests, our health, etc... divert us
from solving the problem, an economy built for ever multiplying demand. |
|
|
586 |
For the sovereign debt bubble the REAL
cure is to mark it all down globally and stop the endless re-lending of the
earnings that pumps it. |
|
|
585 |
Tricks of many kinds can add delays, but
the REAL way to keep financial bubbles from bursting is to let out some air
and turn off the pump. |
|
|
584 |
@jimmy_wales -
Nature loves super efficient designs that people scoff at, like funding the
web with subscribtions to every page at $.25/hr. |
|
|
583 |
I think responding as if the reality
mattered probably seems it might make us look stupid, but actually would make
us rightly proud. |
|
|
582 |
June 2011, PNAS, Recent ecological
responses to climate change support predictions of high extinction risk. pnas.org/content/early/… |
|
|
581 |
If impact reduction for a century, to
1900 levels, greatly cut the likely extinction of 1 in 8 species, would we
feel proud or look stupid? |
|
|
580 |
@Revkin In
the list of sources of ever growing resource demand, is there any one that
can continue without leaving the earth impoverished?? |
|
|
579 |
@Revkin Andy,
your links are great, but on impacts and resource supply. Aren't those
problems caused by our still ever growing demand?? |
|
|
578 |
@aleksj ...and I gather meritocracy and
aristocracy still dominate because generous curiosity is harder to explain?? |
|
|
577 |
In a way we're largely done with the
conquering phase, needing to catch up on the home making phase, more making
things whole than plunder. |
|
|
576 |
Trying not to break social codes as their
teachings fail, is a plausible reason for why most civilizations collapsed
faster than they grew. |
|
|
575 |
Facing why our ideals lead us to destroy
our planet is risky, seeing the addiction of those we trust to lying about
life and death matters. |
|
|
574 |
The oldest rule of science is to find
questions that have answers you can check, to keep building on by checking
them in new situations. |
|
|
573 |
Such clear confusion about reality, by
our entire world expert community, demands strong reactions and clearer
views, but where are they? |
|
|
572 |
Economists see no connection between
money and reality as equations have no people in them... and it's PEOPLE who
connect money to reality. |
|
|
571 |
There's an even BIGGER change in the
thought process that comes when you recognize that the active parts of ecosyste...bit.ly/sMWTOk |
|
|
570 |
We unsuspectingly benefit in New York,
from the spoils of all the stolen fortunes that come, as a game to some, life
or death to others. |
|
|
569 |
Why endless growth is needed to have
steady employment and income is mostly for ever growing pay for people piling
up money to never spend. |
|
|
568 |
Thinking nature works by how we think, of
course, is also an impoverished view, keeping the real magic of life and our
world hidden from us. |
|
|
567 |
So we don't notice that money piling up
as savings while earnings painfully shrink, is a "simple" matter of
the money saved not being spent. |
|
|
566 |
Mixing up consciousness, "what we
see", with the world, "what we look at", makes natural events
seem to work by our own social values. |
|
|
565 |
@postgrowth @theneweconomics @mlhynes -
Be angry with those who aren't! Our crime is improving life to the point of
destroying the earth. |
|
|
564 |
Where do you see it?? It's in "the
American dream" being "more", kept unassailably pure by
ignoring all the quite obvious consequences. |
|
|
563 |
Odd... that we took "improving
life" within a hair of destroying our future on earth, blind trust in
our great ideals clearly betraying us. |
|
|
562 |
@b0yle But
isn't there still some SMALL chance that there is a real world, the reality
we look at as opposed to the one we see in our heads? |
|
|
561 |
So.. if our cultural leaders are misled by mistaken ideals,
why? ..do they think reality is determined in their
thoughts, not the reverse?? |
|
|
560 |
Of ALL my marvelous creations, what it
the world made me think it would be fun to create a species to become the
ultimate global mess??? |
|
|
559 |
Listen carefully to those pointing to
deep problems with our common beliefs, and ignore those saying the problem is
cheaters and tricksters. |
|
|
558 |
It does indeed make a big difference in
the meaning, that you read my word "reorganize" as
"recognize"!! ok-) I ... bit.ly/rPQFva |
|
|
557 |
Still.., it can be risky and painful to
question popular social ideals, even if it's evidently necessary for our own
survival as a society. |
|
|
556 |
The thriving economies of nature we
admire, though, start with multiplying but change ideals, instead of
continuing it till they collapse. |
|
|
555 |
Well.. the problem would HAVE to be the mistaken ideals of those
we admire and respect, their popular social images of a very false reality. |
|
|
554 |
If government, science, finance and
business are all teamed up to help us plant economic seeds to multiply more
to a tragic end, why? |
|
|
553 |
@nprguyraz You ask why the loss of trust??? How
about a society running short on resources that defines prosperity as
accelerating it?! |
|
|
552 |
@kmett @aleksj Can't
getting lost in layers of spaghetti code be a sign of adding epicycles of
solutions to an always ill-defined problem? |
|
|
551 |
@Bill_Gross @Storify #startup The
big common error in start-up's is not looking where they end up, thriving in an world designed to crash. |
|
|
550 |
Among the huge mental errors that got us
here is that "finding resources" doesn't expand them at all, just
expands their rate of depletion. |
|
|
549 |
The heart of our problem unexplored...?
An economy teaching us to specialize in using up its resources as fast as
possible, just for fun! |
|
|
548 |
Teaching solutions keeps students from
exploring the problems, hiding why and how to take the lead, to pursue blind
specialization instead. |
|
|
547 |
But an economy that adds by %'s, to give money ever bigger raises every day, gives us
bigger raises of complexity and conflicts daily too. |
|
|
546 |
Oddly hidden, why using money to make
money keeps adding by %'s, giving out ever bigger
raises on every month, not realistic, just the math! |
|
|
545 |
@danlatorre @Storify ...
but how do you tell mosaic's aren't swarms of
lemmings racing for the sea? It's what the math says we're doing... |
|
|
544 |
The goal of "more" only ends in
a mess, unless on the way you discover your objective, and converge on some
design to make perfect. |
|
|
543 |
What "S" curve of growth
systems (¸¸¸¸.•´ Ż) show is things building from
scratch by a path of discovery, ending in purposes and objectives. |
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@Revkin -
The cartoon tmblr.co/ZtU9QyBCjuwS is about our quest for "ever
more" having no objective, even after adding "and try to be nice". |
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The central problem remains... as
something that virtually everyone accepts as inevitable and unquestionable,
common and good, a mistake. |
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540 |
Is "Anti-TARP" the better
bailout for averting the next collapse, print money as past due wages for
shrinking the debt?synapse9.com/issues/reset$.… |
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539 |
@Revkin One
reason "best laid plans for CO2 cuts not nearly enough" is the demands
for outsourced energy use uncounted!synapse9.com/SEA |
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538 |
*Solve simple things first...* The root
of wealth inequality is earning by $units is linear and by $%'s is
exponential!synapse9.com/signals/2011/1… |
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537 |
@postgrowth Dick
Smith rather misses why growth failed as a model, compound expansion once
served everyone, then we collided with the earth. |
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Confusing but QUITE clear, financial
collapses are all caused by our taking ever bigger steps till we fall on our
face, not by tripping. |
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535 |
Confusing but QUITE clear, the next
financial collapse will also be for trying to continue financial growth, not
the mistakes to be made. |
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534 |
Confusing but QUITE clear, the financial
collapse was caused by trying to stabilize endless financial growth, not the
mistakes it exposed. |
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RE: @CapInstitute I
offered them a workshop proposal called "How systems change form in
nature… shows the way to change the economy disq.us/3wu5oy |
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532 |
When thinking of social networks as
becoming artificial realities full of nonsense, joke about ones you don't
like before your own. |
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@TEEB4ME OK,
but in reality... P x A x T does *NOT* = I (since 'T' is a quite reliable
multiplier of both 'P' & 'A'. synapse9.com |
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530 |
Another way to recycle plastics is to
make packaging like transformer toys, except to turn into versatile products! |
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529 |
@davos Storify
collection of Tweets on WEF wef.ch/H9uP All stimulus
and no sustainability for population, economy or earth. |
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528 |
Taking a mortgage in a stable world, if
bank investors hold their profits for more lending, debts grow and spending
to make incomes shrinks! |
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527 |
Another is, how
social networks form cells of self-serving media, internalized story worlds
serving more and more as separate realities. |
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526 |
Another item getting overlooked,
is how plans for preventing climate change need financing from ever expanding
consumer and investor greed! |
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525 |
@edyong209 @kzelnio The
real main reason biology came into question is viral cells of social media,
the information age as disease not cure. |
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Something, something... about what we're
all doing in response to what's happening around us, seems incredibly
unobservant. |
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Meanwhile... back at the planet, (fill in
characters and actions you see) |
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522 |
A real Christmas gift would be to have
the Boomers, Corps and Rich all spending down their cash, to relieve the
earth of debts and greed. |
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521 |
#OCCUPYWALLSTREET @addbusters Ask
how "organized by greed" becomes "by needs", if boomers
and rich to spend their Wall Street profits. |
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Oct. 22 Updates on #OCCUPYWALLSTREET by @adbusters(featuring @OccupyChicago, @AACina, @MikeElk)adbusters.org/campaigns/occu… via @storify |
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Still, as Keynes clearly said and the
Scrooge found out, there's no fun at all in taking your society to the bitter
end by hording money. |
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What catches us off guard is everything
in nature also begins with greed, but switches to generosity when it finds
itself, and we haven't. |
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517 |
What makes it greed is like a Ponzi scheme, reliable winnings you can keep adding to
your bets, as everyone expects to get from Wall Street! |
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516 |
What would change society from being
organized around greed to human needs is for both the boomers and the rich to
spend down their assets. |
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515 |
Is that the way Steve Jobs would solve
things, a perfectionist like nature herself? Would real solutions to growth
give it a perfect end? |
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514 |
We get caught in using stop gap
solutions, as if just milking the problem while making it worse, like using
efficiency to reduce demand. |
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That human societies keep developing
beyond their own safe limits, drowning in their own complexity, doesn't mean
they have to. |
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512 |
Nature is full of examples of things that
push the limits of their design, but stay safely back from going over them
too, "S" curve growth. |
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But still, why are we accepting a formula
for prosperity requiring ever growing speed and complexity of change and
depletion of resources? |
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510 |
And... so
navigating a moving landscape with a map that's not allowed to change... led
to crash after crash after crash after crash... |
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So... the flowing rules of the
environment like growth, the purpose for enforcing the fixed rules of money,
were simply never studied. |
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It seems... concentrated money comes from
enforcing fixed rules, and so science was only paid to study the fixed rules
of nature. |
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507 |
Our cultures persistently don't notice
that the rules of nature change as you change your own environment. |
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506 |
The rules of an environment flow like a
good story, but for thousands of years authoritarian
man built cultures for fixed rules instead. |
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505 |
Sadly, not just selfish things will grow
to overwhelm the economy. Healthcare also expands health needs to use all the
resource available. |
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504 |
The problem isn't people really, but our
cultures being unable to adapt to the change in the earth, our knowledge not
flowing with nature. |
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It's all about learning to observe, where
productivity ends and greed begins, taking nature for the fool she ain't.synapse9.com/drafts/Jessie'… |
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502 |
Good example in NY Times today, people
who sold gas drilling leases can't get mortgages when banks see the haz waste liability as a cost. |
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501 |
Better way to balance the budget, stop
discounting the environmental liabilities we can measure & tax those
profiting not public credit card |
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We babble, don't we.
If we spend ~$4 a gallon for gas, how much is the cost for our kids?
...having to rebuild a failed society from nothing |
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@tweetingdonal @Revkin #pace -
Our running out of money for stop gap measures is nature's clear hint, we
better solve the real problem! |
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@Revkin ...
But "the hard choices" are often really
the easier ones in the end, actually solving things instead of just putting
it off. |
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To end wealth inequity, so wealth
reflects the value of work, earnings in $%'s are spent making $unit incomes
for work by the piece or hour. |
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496 |
To be precise, wealth inequality grows
when some people earn by $%'s and other people earn in $units, it's
exponential versus linear income. |
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495 |
@storyofstuff @bgreedngrowth @PaulHassing -
Might check out@
... straight to stuff beyond the story, what nature needs from
us |
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Curious that Keynes really said to stop
adding capital returns to capital so growing greed doesn't outpace the
economy.synapse9.com/signals |
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493 |
Interesting that science has no way to
define "large" or "small", arguably one's most
relationship with their environment. |
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@stuarthorrex To
say "cheapest is the best environmentally" sounds like the science
behind "impacts = incomes" fromsynapse9.com/SEA. |
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lnkd.in/a87885 I was hoping to point to the
multiple kinds of complexity. I think some are matters of degree and others
matters... |
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490 |
@CapInstitute Gar
Alperowitz complains of reformers, just like him,
who propose cures without asking if they'll cause the same disease. |
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Well, which is a better source of fresh
cultural thinking, doubting your assumptions or affirming your aspirations?synapse9.com/signals |
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lnkd.in/eXxVKm I posted this a couple days ago,
thought it likely to be quite helpful, so reposting today with an edit.
There's... |
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Experts see a static world in their minds
following the events of the past. The real world is seen building crises by
accumulating steps. |
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486 |
Fiduciary money managers plant money as
seed to multiply seed till it bursts the economic environment because their
clients (we) ask them to |
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485 |
No farmer would be that dumb, of course,
but for some strange reason fiduciary money managers always are. |
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@aleksj And also just like money, even in
the summer any crop can become a total loss by overplanting |
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...not that it isn't also quite difficult
for us to connect words with both objects of nature and of thought and not
get them very confused. |
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Look, what seems missing is any strong
interest in why the experts have so miscalculated our self-interests #paceblogsynapse9.com/signals |
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In nature, growth systems **with a
survival instinct** change from investing profits to grow their conflicts to
spending on minimizing them. |
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Not the least difficulty with money, is how our minds give us a world made of just our
social relationships, quite leaving nature out...! |
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Social movements do well with social
conflicts. But the money problem is a conflict within our own ideas of
nature, and a less easy target. |
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@OccupyWallSt If
your cabinets are the wrong color and too small, you still need carpentry
plans, tools and supplies to change the system. |
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@OccupyWallSt @TeaParty .. The 1 + 2 + 3 argument =
to more jobs and less debt, is spending from the excesses of concentrated
profits. |
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476 |
If the problem is bigness getting bigger,
taking over the earth and our lives, closely study what additions cause it. @OccupyWallSt |
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@OccupyWallSt What
social networks can do that experts often can't is notice the new questions
going around and ask them loud and clear. |
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@OccupyWallSt Of
all the essential ingredients, what social networks have the most trouble
finding is fresh insight...synapse9.com/signals/ |
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@johnmsmart Yea,
OK, but that won't work either if the only "stable state" of our
economy has ever multiplying demand. |
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@OccupyWallSt Good
bets do thrive at first, adding your winnings to them again and again, but
destroys your whole environment to continue. |
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471 |
@OccupyWallSt wants
to "change the culture" unaware how that comes from our "not
changing the procedure", that of *adding winnings to bets*. |
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Jobs said "aim higher". Are we
being defeating by compromise? Growing impacts can be stopped only for the
WHOLE, with NO parts left out. |
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469 |
Steve Jobs wanted people to know their
own vision, and the difference between vision and what there is to build with
too, to make it real. |
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That's what I described as a natural
limit due to growth creating confusion, in the 1979 essay "The Infinite
Society".synapse9.com/phpub.htm |
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Another structure changing our world is
everyone trying to be efficient by doing everything in a hurry, making plans
into scrambled eggs! |
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466 |
...but confounding the WHOLE effort is
our inability to get plans for our working categories to correspond to
nature's working things, |
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465 |
Since if we don't stop growing in scale
we'll keep dismembering our environments and families for parts to maximize
their service to money. |
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and, spending from saved unearned income is what's needed,
*nature's way*, to stop using the economy's profits for multiplying its
scale. |
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The difference is between how nature
works, with ever changing relationships, and our running the world with
formulas for fixing them. |
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@STWR_ #occupywallstreet The RIGHT goal changes the system.
Not taxing the rich, but their spending enough accumulated unearned income. |
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Do think of nature less as categories connected
by our views and feelings, more as organizations emerging within webs of
building prosesses. |
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... "planting
to care for offspring", harvesting from investment to feed others not
just multiply more investment... is real sustainability. |
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...and natural for men to feel more
undirected as planting seed to multiply seed comes to an end, and planting to
care for offspring begins. |
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The root confusion, of course, finding
answers reflecting ourselves as what's real, just ignoring the life around us
raising new questions. |
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Our choice to become lost in
self-entertainments and technology, at our time to turn and find our place on
earth, irony for synergy later. |
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Or simply, growth *always* makes trusted
ways of the past impossible in the future, including growth, so living in the
past comes to an end. |
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@HarvardBiz #CSR Shouldn't
long term maintenance of the business environment show as a
anticipated costs on current business balance sheets? |
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@csrexecs #CSR is
also the tool to help companies understand why nature forces whole growth
systems to think of something else to do. |
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@ryanschuchard #CSR supply
chain carbon is tricky, exposing major environmental accounting error in ISO
14000 std's...synapse9.com/SEA |
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So... the whole design of economies, for
endless growth to start, makes them naturally impossible and needing
reinvention as something else. |
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Mother nature's game is to give things
one game only to throw them off it, just to see what they do. Odd indeed, but
immensely creative. |
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It's just nature's "zany" way
of thinking, to start things with impossible dreams of infinity, to watch how
they scramble for alternatives. |
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What's always unexpected is how growth is
designed to make itself impossible... cooking an environment for the
evolution of something else. |
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448 |
...and then also that every new situation would seem to require 'downloading' new software from someplace... |
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Maybe the problem with determinism is the needed rules for the software having to be much more complex than the hardware. |
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446 |
@aleksj -Related to fall off in use of words "growth" and "complex"? See Google ngram. |
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So science can't have determined all causes are external, if internal causes occur but information on how is naturally hidden from our view. |
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You see organisms, storms, cultures, technologies, movements, etc, animated by bursts of change internally, for no apparent outside cause. |
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An important observation is how clearly the way nature organizes things remains hidden inside the things she organizes, out of our view. |
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@STWR_ Sure, speculation can drive up prices... but the actionable cause is they only can when demand exceeds supply.synapse9.com/pub/ASustInves… |
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@Revkin - Brooks' blames our "inability to think about the economy in a realistic way"...the irony is EVERYONE else is saying that too!! ;-) |
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@politifact What's the truth to the endlessly repeated claim that how we've changed the earth only expands our potential for more growth? |
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... it's our social belief and value systems that substitute for nature, when based on the social responses we get not curiosity and reason. |
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Is it natural for people to say nature works so differently than it does? Yes, quite. It's more effort to base ideas on what you observe. |
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That systems in nature work that way, bursting in scale from a seed, to survive only by stopping, can't have been studied by our ancestors. |
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So, at the end of the run for "Be fruitful and multiply." the practice that was so fruitful becomes completely unmanageable, unless stopped. |
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So it's really investors (us) that demand to have regulators, banks, science & markets multiply our investments till becoming unmanageable. |
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The joke is that why democracies are failing is the same reason dictatorships are too, ever growing solutions that create hopeless problems. |
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So the real reason democracy is failing is that finance multiplied solutions into completely unmanageable problems. |
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Planting your seed to keep multiplying your seed, the way finance works, brings exceptional bounty sure to end in exceptional tragedy. |
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The real fault isn't with regulators or banks, but 'mad' investors demanding a stability for ever multiplying returns that won't go bankrupt. |
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It's not the buildings that sustained us before making us unsustainable now. It's our scale, and money driving it to increase ever faster. |
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That's the escape, from seeing our cultures as reality and keeping the old rules as we changed the earth, bring in new meaning from outside. |
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So.. it really is NOT a problem of fulfilling our high cultural values, but looking outside our cultures for guidance on new higher values. |
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Our cultures and theories for growth formed when we were tiny and the earth seemed infinite, now the earth's reality reversed but not ours. |
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Very curious denial, of clearly shrinking resources and growing world demand, fiduciaries all agree our best interest is in rapid growth. |
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Is the problem of investors today getting returns on the seeds they plant, to then plant more, or managing the explosions of consequences? |
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... and in the news, little but bombs, disasters and crises, while the explosions of new relationships in nature and culture go ignored. |
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...instead, having missed the turn we're still planting our seed to multiply our seeds till our entire crop wilts, ...the bitter end again. |
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Like, if finding a way to comfortably end growth was in the 1910 plan for our national parks, the good turning point would have been ~1950. |
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Going till you get to the end of the road often means you missed your turn... |
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@Revkin Causality at stake?? If you read science as saying nature follows our formulas, caisality never even had a place, only prediction. |
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Asking "If prediction isn't causation, what is??" can be a VERY good question, giving much more useful answers, like choices along the way. |
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As economies require profit for resilience or growth, warriors would see an endless use for growth as preparing for the wars it leads to. |
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The Bible displays our most ancient of recorded world views, authoritarian in its foundation, no hint of life as an ecology of partnerships. |
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Our authoritarian approach to life could come from "be fruitful and multiply" naturally causing mortal environmental conflict at its limit. |
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It's the obvious connection between money and nature, that we use money to request service from people using nature, still being overlooked. |
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Yes, it also means that what you put in the plastic bag would typically have over 1000 times the impact as the plastic of the bag. |
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e.g. As SEA proves energy use largely comes from human services, not technology, our plans need total rethinking. synapse9.com/SEA |
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So, prospering by using up life's necessities ever faster is "OK", if as it seems, it doesn't alter your social relationships. |
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So, why would dramatic and easily confirmed facts get no response? In our culture the physical world, by itself, has no social meaning. |
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So, if we use money to measure "externalities", i.e. providing physical goods and services, what then is the limit of adding money by %'s ?? |
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The choice is to find how the images in our minds are unlike the world we live in, telling concepts and theories from partnerships in life. |
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Using profits to multiply demand till the system collapses... is optional. |
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Honoring the ever growing demands of money pushes life to madness, only repeating our ancient fall from grace. It's a total waste of time. |
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Pushing growing demand till your world collapses is a betrayal of one's maker, one's ancestors, ones own whole history of creative struggle. |
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The curious problem with pushing financial demands to the collapse of a finance system, again and again, is it serves nothing but madness. |
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Most struggle to find concepts for how nature works eventful things so simply, and scientists to find anything eventful in their concepts. |
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...but why doesn't it get discussed that the need to deliver growing returns from shrinking recourses blocks every real solution?? |
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Systems that end in crises get there by having a pump of growing demands in the loop, and are relieved by turning it down or off. |
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With all these mounting crises one would think people would take an interest in what systems naturally end in crisis and their relief. |
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@Revkin @grist There is also large collateral damage from people still not discussing of individual emerging systems that make life lively. |
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So, that would mean "Question your knowledge" isn't enough, and needs to start with "Question your culture". |
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So, it might seem our culture is based on our knowledge, but looking around, only the reverse would put us in such strange deep trouble. |
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@@Revkin ... So that's confirming with a reasonable cause the decade scale cycle I said would lead to this wave of denialism, ~20 years ago. |
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So yes, it seems something surely needs to be cut, but can we tell which of natures parts is our umbilical cord and which is our throat? |
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Because forming a circle of relationships is the first definite step if new identity, a structure required for and capable of growth. |
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It's the circles of relationships in nature you watch for, by how they show their own connected behaviors, forming whole individual systems. |
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Ever growing expectations are unreal, that's all. It makes being faithful to them the problem, not the solution. |
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The brains in finance are just dropping the ball, not even studying what causes their expectation to inflate and assure cascading collapse. |
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People think Keynes was an total optimist, willing to bet on it. Actually he faced the darkness, and saw through it. synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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It's just incorrect to equate "making money" by growing your own drain of credit from other things, with "making wealth" for the economy. |
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It comes from thinking of nature as made for our social rules, and planting seed only to multiply the seed, as if nature could handle it. |
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Finance is in such trouble from traders trading for their own accounts, putting money in to take ever more out, that can't last naturally. |
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Why money pumps things up to just drain them dry, at the limit the still growing savings of some comes from draining the savings of others. |
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Does reaching for infinity become practical, by just committing to keep up with the ever bigger steps till they're out of reach? |
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When a system is already overbuilt, it's a still greater waste to continue overbuilding it. So when do we start asking how rather than why? |
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Their hiding place? In plain sight, never in our information but only internal to their own circles of organization, hidden from our view. |
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And science has **not even begun** to study the systems of nature that so handily take care of themselves,... no clue where they are even. |
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So, it seems the conceptual realities are irresolvable, even hard to make any sense of, having found no grip on the physical ones yet. |
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The bond markets keep telling us what to do so they can have systematically multiplying savings, and the intellectuals keep wondering why. |
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It's so easy to catch yourself blaming the surfer for the wave, like the ultra rich for leading a society with dreams so certain to fail. |
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@@cjeder Well, except the usual effect of efficiency is increasing energy uses 2.5 times the amount of saved... making each more profitable. |
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So, my natural systems science locates nature's hidden circles for studying their emerging behaviors, lights shining into that blind spot. |
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Or, is nature is better seen as a "wicked gossip", keeping her secrets to the circles that invent them so well, we're just quite unaware? |
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@cjeder but... IF you add the 8000btu/$ of human services needed to operate the airline and the cars, both should go up more than 100%. |
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Is it a self-betrayal?? ...to avoid discussing what practical ways exist to stop money from piling up, uncontrollably, to topple our world? |
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It's not our social values causing nature trouble and to misbehave, as she listens ONLY to our procedures, we may not see, and nothing else. |
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@donmacca @guardian @pdenlinger ... Of course, Google's GHG no. will be off from reality by a scale of 5 due to method.synapse9.com/SEA |
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It would be so nice if nature could understand the language of our social policies, and didn't only listen when we're speaking hers. |
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@Revkin @TreeHugger The Onion misses the deeper reason. Growth and climate change have to keep accelerating to pay for slowing them down! |
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@ezraklein What the economy needs is not to be "goosed" again, nor to "let it rip". Those are just beating up on an very overworked world. |
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@postgrowth @adbusters @donmacca Yes, the wave is ready to break, but the grass roots still aren't on it! Nature isn't run by social policy. |
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@Revkin Isn't the real answer that slowing down radiation speeds up convection EVERYWHERE?? Let's teach people to think scientifically! |
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Free will isn't of much use without clear vision, is it. But we just don't yet see our habit of adding %'s as what's exploding our planet. |
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The other "Why??" is less simple. Why no one notices is that most see nature as behaving according to our culture wars, and not by herself. |
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The useful full answer to "Why??" is simple. Why it gets bigger and changing faster than we can manage is our always adding to it by %'s. |
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Money takes over our lives because it's designed to; to use its control to add to its control, by %'s forever, men out planting their seeds! |
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Hard science in the media? When in doubt, just hold the social status of the noise makers responsible for all natural events. |
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@postgrowth Perhaps the much stronger force of social isolation due to growth is social networks forming their own realities in isolation. |
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@GreatConvergnce @genesharpfilm .. One can't start a revolution without truth. Without limits to money we're just apologists and stooges. |
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@postgrowth "Positive Money" still missing **the one thing** that has to change, the endless growth rule of investment.positivemoney.org.uk/take-action/sp… |
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@EarthUnSummit12 @wecanada Why does every "earth summit" seem to recommit us to paying for externalities with multiplying externalities??? |
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@sergirovira @felixdodds - The future IS an achievement, and "S" curves of development reflect the nature of its construction, not numbers. |
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Nature does love our making her pregnant, but she has us pay quite dearly for doing it more and more, while never budgeting for child care. |
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What would float the jobs is only one thing, for the wealthy to spend money to give people earnings, not lend it to raise their debts. |
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A matter of scale, the men planting their seed in nature, for a growing harvest of planting ever more seed, till nature just can't take it. |
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@postgrowth Alternative economies are great niche solutions but won't fix a money system running amuck... you need Keynes' lasting solution. |
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@RBReich - But if what hurt the middle class is "the earth is full", how to slow down not speeding up is what'll help.synapse9.com/signals |
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Maybe... "equal time" should just apply to personal expression, and applied to sound science treats science as just opinion, not discovery. |
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S.O.S. S.O.S. The ship will sink if the wealthy don't spend enough money to permanently relieve everyone of excess debt. Hoarding adds up. |
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@Revkin @chrishughes @jumoconnect @GOOD - but what is slowing pace of change is NOT getting the word out, but confusion & misdirection. |
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@ScienceChanges Development begins with a burst of new relationships, processes scaling up to satisfy the energy continuity of development. |
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So you really wonder how our culture doesn't notice the little explosions of new relationships at the start of everything that happens. |
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Little bang theory... where it all begins! Every beginning built with a little burst of new relationships. |
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To have energy continuity requires process continuity, and innovation to be a little bang of construction at the beginning of all events. |
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Change isn't pressure or noise, but needs "mutation" to be a construction process, a burst of new relationships emerging, innovation. |
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@postgrowth yes, EF is a well constructed measure, but a small part of total demand, like missing ever growing demands on our talents too. |
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@aleksj Well, what's replacing commuting with communicating also splits the economy into unequal upward and downwardly mobile parts!! |
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@postgrowth @paulgilding @Freemoneyday ...but the ONLY effective anti shopping campaign is an anti earning campaign, at ~8000btu/$GDP! |
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Only one first time for anything,... unless you consider everything to be a first time for everything, life as information or a process! |
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Perception is a stream of snap judgments, rarely pausing to ask dumb questions, like why does giving money to money no longer pays us back. |
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@STWR_ In 5 min on the US debt, left out is the dilemma that paying debt doesn't produce spending, but debt upon debt to bankrupt the world. |
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..the main problem with natural systems, of course, is how they work inside is quite hidden from view, only hinted by external behavior, |
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So, we keep trying to fix our worlds of social relations, with no idea how or why our worlds of physical systems around us keep changing. |
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So, we keep trying to fix our social concept worlds, paying no attention at all to how and why the physical one is changing. |
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What we see in our minds is our own world of internal social relationships, that we confuse with the ones our world works or fails by. |
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@postgrowth - fine personal lives, but "simple life" won't alter "critical breakdowns in world systems". Want to live well in a corpse? |
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Common finding?... my "How natural system bankruptcy works" & Colin Campbell's "Seneca effect" synapse9.com/signals/2011/0…cassandralegacy.blogspot.com/2011/08/seneca… |
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@TEEB4ME Circular economy MUST include circular money - concept J.M. Keynes, Chapter 16, The General Theory -synapse9.com/ref/KeynesGenT… |
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Engineers err on the side of caution when taking on greater challenges, but for economists caution is to add them by %'s... |
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With our having such an ethic of kindness, it's evidently our ignorance that makes us behave so extraordinarily cruel. |
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At the limits of healthy growth stronger parts can keep growing by consuming the economic resources of the weak, even as the total shrinks. |
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Why does economic growth become cannibalistic? It's our rules for managing our savings, the same as for cancer, only invest to expand. |
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Why does economic growth become cannibalistic? It's our rules for using money to make money. They ask investment managers to do it. |
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Why does economic growth become cannibalistic at its limits? The strong then can only grow by consuming the (market share of the) weak. |
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@climate_diplo @KHayhoe ..."How to talk to climate skeptics"? Boy, I wish I could get past the confused fixations of climate believers! |
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#sustdev and 'green design' equally neglect the large and diverse resource demands made by ANY spending of money.synapse9.com/SEA |
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@donmacca Maclurcan offers nice images, yes, but should work with me to get them to work in nature. Nature doesn't follow social policy... |
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@pwjohnson @EarthUnSummit12 @Revkin Both #sustdev and "green economy" ignore the outsourced impacts of money, so not much different at all. |
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#irene 8:00AM No branches down anywhere in Ft Tryon park, but one, oddly broken in 8 pieces as if smashed to bits by force. |
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Two great waves of immigration, one when finding room & ways to grow, the other as growth created conflicts, different.synapse9.com/issues/Immigra… |
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If it seems the "social cost of CO2" is closer to $900/ton, the real cost per $GDP is then $0.41 scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id… synapse9.com/SEA |
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@EarthUnSummit12 @Revkin @pwjohnson - #sustainable is false really, reality SO different, just reducing visible impacts to grow hidden ones. |
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@EarthUnSummit12 @Revkin @pwjohnson - #susdev OK except 90% is usual devl. with new name & old outsourced energy use. synapse9.com/SEA/ |
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@Revkin ..but Hansen is still proposing we pay for the climate mitigation by consuming all other economic resources ever faster...! |
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Using money to just squeeze the world for more money, isn't nurturing the earth. It's our men, obsessed with empty symbols and going mad. |
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It's an internal choice to respond, not a rule or external force. Is that what's confusing? A time to take in and a time to release it... |
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It's an investment system that reinvests its profits as it becomes over-investing, like we are... that drives itself into total bankruptcy. |
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0ne thing any development system in nature needs to do is reinvest it's profits to grow and divest them to mature and survive. |
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I solved the physics problem 30 years ago, to find Keynes had solved it 50 years before me, what nature needs us to do at growth limits. |
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@Revkin We'd respond as if to a hurricane, if we spent 1/10 the effort on the changing rates of using and finding affordable resources. |
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@donmacca Economies are only slightly responsive to social policy, and not if money opposes. It ALL rests on relieving money's need to grow |
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If the deep problem is world resource demand increasing faster than supply... to restore growing demand to solve it will just make it worse! |
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Our most depleted resource is our ability to find more resources to deplete, long just assumed infinite, but actually not hard to check. |
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@TEEB4ME How about someone studying how economies work as ecologies?????? That's the real subject we owe 5000 years of back homework on. |
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@TEEB4ME ..Please, When growth becomes unprofitable for the whole, every part is at real risk. To divest not invest profits saves the day. |
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Keynes first talked about the obvious solution for 20 years, then Boulding for 40, then me for 30+. It's still the one way systems survive. |
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A friend says I should find a cartoonist or animator to help me illustrate the living world I see. |
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As the world gets more complex and less manageable it needs more resources, and progressive depletion allows less.synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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Is the film in the camera the environment seen in the picture? Does it work by the relationships observers see, as most science relies on? |
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Does the organization of how things work ever change from anywhere other than the inside, largely out of view largely by observers? |
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Looking at the world, do the things you see work by the relationships YOU see?... or does each have a world with a heart beat of its own? |
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Nature thought a little birthday party would be nice, a way to begin. But nobody came. So she just relaxed and watched the grass grow. |
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Say YES to great symbolic statements...Tell Obama to Say NO to Tar Sands. Pls RT act.350.org/sign/tar-sands/ ...and go much further yourself. |
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It's a natural system bankruptcy, EROI < 1, ever growing demand exceeding supply, shedding failing parts til it weakens the whole like Rome. |
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We finally overcame nature, the dumb way... but by rejecting her from our social realities, a harrowing partner rejection to come. |
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Our words became ungrounded and lost their real meanings because of our cultural choice to not accept nature in our social realities. |
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Even the IPCC calls for ever growing resource depletion to pay for climate mitigation... Yea, that'll work great! natural system bankruptcy |
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@donmacca Not one confronts needing to end ever growing profits. The physical world requires, the social world denies.synapse9.com/signals |
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@postgrowth - It's wrong to say "We are ecological accountants" like EF does, overlooking outsourced impacts of money.synapse9.com/SEA |
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I think the only reasonable conclusion is that somehow all our metaphors got broke, and just don't connect anymore. |
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@Revkin Rick Perry may be mad... just as divorced from reality as our world plan to sustain prosperity with ever faster resource depletion. |
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Maybe it's that so many people are trying to get a word in edgewise, practically one actually gets a chance to say anything... |
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Sparks originate opportunistically, storms originate opportunistically, phase changes originate opportunistically... |
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How come learning broke down, and everyone became an ego universalist??? |
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It seems there needs to be an opportunistic event for beginning any deterministic process. |
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In nature, growth is NOT a number on a sliding scale. It's a construction project for making something lasting and succeeds, or it fails. |
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Finding someone else's pocket to pick doesn't tell you why everyone is getting so desperate to find someone else's pocket to pick... |
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I might not have noticed... but for being offended by how men keep screwing nature just to create bigger screw guns, with no other purpose. |
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Money is actually pumped from the earth, in the form of delivered goods and services, and *that's* why it can't keep multiplying any more. |
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"More" is a terrible purpose to keep for centuries, even "saving lives" then creates diseases, bad genes & incompetence nature wouldn't. |
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@aleksj But what if information is now interpreted from invented social realities, ever more divorced from the common complex real world. |
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Look at the world consensus economic policy, more growth to use depleting resources and create externalities to not respond to ever faster. |
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Go outside your familiar network... |
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It seems an information age naturally leaves you trying to run the world with culture wars, each viewing it from its own reality. |
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It's also progress that exhausts *affordable* resources ever faster... so high overhead economies that get hit hardest. |
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Whose job is that anyway, dealing with a world psychosis... like belief in prosperity assured by using up shrinking resources ever faster? |
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Hunter/gatherers took from nature to use and work on at home, but then some used their takes to only multiply, and stopped bringing it home. |
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In real science, theory is the question, and the study of nature is always the answer. |
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@postgrowth @Freemoneyday @VenessaMiemis 13 books... that still don't fix the way we use money to grow investments...synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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@postgrowth @degrowth "co-creating no growth world" also adds to wonder about why economic "crazies" seem ALL around.synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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@STWR_ @yesmagazine "Resilient Economy" adds to wonder about why economic "crazies" seem ALL around.synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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Even life saving is limited by promoting genes and incompetence nature would have eliminated, needing a greater purpose than just "more". |
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Growth always continues till it eliminates the conditions for growth, a change in rules like your birth getting you evicted from the womb. |
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Now... if anyone would connect that with our driving money the opposite way.. we'd be getting places. thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/08/0… |
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Arctic sea ice trend.. very graphically displayed...thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/08/0… |
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Why do politicians all agree on our wasting our effort getting back to using things up ever faster to remain prosperous?? Won't work. |
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You know, like some days it's just time to listen to your own body, as it's got things to say to you? The earth's our body, listen. |
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Natural systems grow in their own bubbles, as self-defined networks growing from a seed, emerging in a burst of self-organization. |
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When it comes down to it, the people who have difficulty acknowledging error are the ones who are just not curious about the real world. |
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What kills confidence more than anything else is endless over-investment, squeezing everyone's margins to a common point of disillusionment. |
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...and while not finding any resting place offering growth, still fooling both computer and man that hopes to find the world is infinite. |
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Are wild daily gyrations "the Twitter Effect" with the world's market chasers and followers flocking like birds finding no place to land? |
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Managing for growth results in taking on more complex tasks till the system doing it becomes unmanageable, so manage for response instead. |
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A system of ever growing complexity now naturally exceeding the limits of its own self regulation, as clearly described in 1979. |
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Market players driving turmoil to profit from it, not to share in what's profitable to others? Spoiling the game fun at first, then ugly. |
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"I'll Be Gone / You'll Be Gone" is financial manipulation, that naturally grows ever faster when that's what profitable investment is left. |
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The social contract becomes one sided, money goes into things, but only with guarantees to take more out, till it breaks the social order. |
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Investing money into things to take more out first stimulates then overtakes and destroys them. An infinite thing chasing a finite one. |
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The real cause is accumulated money accumulating more and more, bankrupting the cash economy. It irreversible when the bars begin to close. |
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So, one real way to fix the drain of money from the cash economy into finance is to print as much as 30 years of our wages to hand out. ;-) |
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What's the real difference between adding by units and adding in %'s? For flows in nature one can be a steady state, and the other can't. |
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@EarthUnSummit12 @artate - and... ALL our institutions designed to remain "stable" by multiplying in scale forever too... odd design, no? |
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Really Phil, you're forgetting the true reality is the epicycles for our theory, not the things of nature, if you know what's good for you. |
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@aleksj Trader's "hands on faces" seems GD endless! Must be the world in our brains isn't found in reality... synapse9.com/signals |
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"Reading Nature's Signals" for learning how to read the individual behaviors of the living systems of nature.google.com/reader/view/fe… |
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We built the fixed design of our society around taking two cookies from nature for every one we took before, like a mindless 2 year old. |
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The real crisis is how people think nature uses their own social network's theory, so can't read what her signals mean!synapse9.com/signals |
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A long infantile habit of taking two cookies for every one you took before... naturally leads to this (usual tragic bedlam). |
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With finance designed for everyone to take over the world at once, many find hoarding cash is their last refuge, and the world seizes up... |
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Keynes actually predicted this very kind of natural end-of-growth crisis, ever growing savings getting shrinking returns synapse9.com/signals/ |
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CapitalInstitute.com Synapse9.com. Poking our heads above the
waves! |
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Enough spending by those with excess savings averts world default when growth becomes unprofitable. (Keynes Chapter 16)synapse9.com/ref/KeynesGenT… |
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If enough spending by those with excess savings would both end growth and avert world default on it as debt, then what's their motive??? |
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Is it that we live in a physical world, not a
theoretical world, that all the theoretical arts
simply missed, just looking the other way??? |
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How did science not notice, that all the systems we see developing and operated from the inside, aren't controlled by forces from outside??? |
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The catch for mainstream science, for example, is how nature operates in cells working internally, so not ruled by what observers can see. |
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I am looking, but just don't find any stream of western culture that doesn't treat nature as its own theory... and they're all different. |
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@Revkin Friedman's "5 eroded pillars" (of perpetual growth), omits the need for rapidly depleting resources and the conflicts that causes. |
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Owning an ever growing share, of an ever more fictional pie, your value is still what you can sell it for, right?? But leads to panic... |
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The impression is our whole intellectual culture is profoundly blind or dishonest... as nearly everyone's theories treat nature as a theory. |
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In the end, money IS reality, no financial system is stable if those with savings just squeezed it for more, and don’t spend their earnings. |
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Love is all you need! ...except
figuring out why a world filled with so much of it is also so amazingly
ignorant of nature. |
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Learn words referring directly to
events and objects of nature, and for her meanings, separate from word uses
for our beliefs and values. |
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How money connects to reality is by
our using it for making requests for ever growing control of the earth, which
backfires at the limits. |
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The ideal economic
product, low cost, little thought needed, direct
access to the brain's pleasure centers... our consuming main activity! |
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Do we protect endangered species?
...or more our own dependency on the money, what actually causes the great
threat to nature and the earth? |
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Do we "save lives" or more
often just bodies? ...added to our list of credits, but rewarded with only
painful struggle and to die unnoticed. |
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@revkin - Well, looking for first causes, what's always done the most to keep
speeding up warming is "making money", the one whole cause. |
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Social networks drifting ever
further into their own social realities... Ever more urged by nature go the
other way!
synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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Everyone says,
"Well my theory is..." as if that was all nature required to give
them a whole new reality. |
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All the paths for
escaping the house of self-love are so overgrown you can hardly see where
they are anymore. |
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Still... beats me how to get love to
be truthful. I'm just surrounded by intellectual cultures in love with
themselves and happy to be. |
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Putting money in to take more out, pumps
things up but then drains them dry, a fine boom-bust stewardship for our
lives.
synapse9.com/issues/Reading… |
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@revkin ...
The MUCH bigger
problem is "leading experts" have long assumed we lived in a deterministic
world, only now finding out we don't. |
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Interesting that Teilhard de Chardin was the
genius McLuhan got his main ideas from... but never mentioned. Strange
intellects, ice on fire |
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That scientists counted
only ~1/5 of the energy demands of businesses (SEA) let environmentalists
make great errors.synapse9.com/SEA |
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Money multiplies for
people who manage money, not anyone else. That difference grows relentlessly
unless money earnings get spent. |
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MCluhan's "the medium is the message" seems to mean that in the
future every cultural network can look out from its own private bubble. |
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@mothernaturenet @revkin still not checking if "clean tech" comes from "dirty
money", the usual investment plan to take over all of nature. |
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how would one know whether "clean tech" came from "dirty
money" or not, the usual plot of investors to turn the whole earth into
products. |
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What if everyone
found a good use for everyone else's trash, like nature does, acting as her
partner instead of her worst problem. |
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What animates change in nature are explosions of
self-organization we see as "growth", but mysteriously it's not
even a subject of physics. |
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People "living
on the edge" are often kept there by aid that fails to change their
problem, only making it worse by trying to hide it. |
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Paper on 500%
adjustment in what energy uses to count, just awarded ASME prize for best
Energy Sustainability paper 2010synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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the problem with social networks is nature gets seen as their social
construct, even science, with language, as yet, defining everything. |
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mother nature also kindly reminds us, you better not address her as
"sir" either, if you want to get along... |
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nature is at a loss how to help her creation, that denies her physical
working parts, treating them like just a game of social appearances. |
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@aleksj One also needs to look at immigration as a series of great waves and
historic events.. synapse9.com/issues/USImmig… |
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Where do you find
the natural world?synapse9.com/signals/2011/0… |
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There's nothing
wrong with the joys of our lives at all, but letting others use them to drive
the earth to exhaustion. |
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Would we find
reality more likely in things we can explain, or in things we are at a loss to
but nature does simply, like growth and change. |
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In demanding CO2 use
if we could smell the gas, we'd get a cubic meter blast for every single
dollar of GDP we spent.synapse9.com/design/dollars… |
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If growth is like
pregnancy, and creates something, limitless growth is a plan to exhaust all
resources before budgeting for child rearing. |
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@aleksj Growth as a "pulse" is more like pregnancy, you just can't stay
in it, and have REAL IMPORTANT things to do and care for then. |
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@aleksj Social media make belief culturally affirming... but observation not,
and so are biased against reading nature.synapse9.com/signals/ |
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@Revkin Environmentalists also impressively ignore the actual source of demand, that overpowers their own efforts to protect the
earth. |
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Environmentalists
Are Doing Impressive Fracking PR Work in New York -
Politics - The Atlantic Wire theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/… |
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So, what is the
"good reason" for our using all our expert systems to make live
better by a means that seems to destroy the earth? |
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So unexpected is
world resource demand exceed world supply, now we don't see it at it's happening. A defining moment:synapse9.com/pub/ASustInves… |
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Every time I point
out the little gaps, someone thinks I'm just showing them the myths need
patching, and promptly cover it up! ;-) |
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Trying to be a
member in good standing, of a culture blind to its own circumstance, makes
not seeing it a price of "good standing" |
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Our world doesn't
sit still, but is in turbulent motion, as we heat it up without knowing how. |
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Isn't the problem...
that belief is culturally affirming, and observation not, but questioning?
Then our cultures go blind and disconnect. |
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If population &
productivity growth raise demand and nature and conservation both are
decreasing supply, what relieves the growing conflict? |
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Moving to higher
ground to avoid being swept away by a flood is "socially
unacceptable" to people why don't want to get wet. |
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Foo Camp 6/10-12 in Sebastopol lanyrd.com/2011/foocamp/ via @lanyrd - Alex Jakulin
presenting my work - Anarchetype study for natural
systems |
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@Revkin @guardian Setting tougher targets for climate change won't reduce a bit the CO2
stimulus of economic growth still in them. |
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@Revkin Tempting, but denying the physical nature of nature won't make it a
malleable concept to change as we like. Reality has no escape. |
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@SustainOurEarth @addthis Speth's micro-managing of
the world ecology as a governmental service, won't
erase the limits of money, nope!! |
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@Revkin @USGS "Peak Planet" isn't a list of resources limits and workouts,
but a systemic collision between nature and man leaving no choice |
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@Revkin But Andy... Smil's "sustained push to
boost innovation" is the old core problem, as ever bigger risks with
nature, used for growth. |
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People's #productivity,
stiffening resolve & natural limits of supply, driving food and fuel
through the roof! synapse9.com/phpub.htm#113 |
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@STWR_ food prices double by 2030? Critical to see it's the drive for productivity
doing it - www.synapse9.com/pub/ASustInvestMoment-PH.pdf |
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The telling mental
gap that “Gapminder.org” graphically displayshttp://synapse9.com/signals/2011/05/30/the-telling-mental-gap-at-gapminderorg |
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The answer is in!
The #limit of #growth is much too
expensive!#Resource #markets switch from inviting
new users to defending their turf! |
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When's it more
profitable to invest in making your environment work than in inflating your
own wealth? In finance, simply never! :-/ |
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When is the point in #growth when it becomes more
profitable to invest in protecting and nurturing your environment than
expanding yourself? |
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@edyong209 @ken_homer - definitely, most
radical change we see coming we can keep denying till the day it arrives,
this just overwhelms |
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#Food crisis, WorldWatch links to fuel demand, making fertilizer from
natural gas too expensive..
synapse9.com/issues/PlanteChange11_03.pdf |
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Was it when our
guides chose to impress on us that nature's voice spoke in their words, not
in how to listen to her's, so very long ago?? |
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When the earth as a
whole calls out our name so clearly, and just as clearly unheard, I wonder when
it was we became so deaf to her song? |
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@Revkin Well, realistically, to have helped him you'd have had to stop and
give him a lift. It wasn't something 911 could really respond to. |
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@GreatConvergnce Duh... syNapse9?? It's about how nature connects things using narrow gaps to have
openings where the wilderness can enter. |
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@GreatConvergnce @dotearth But Gell-Mann trusts the theories of "whole system modelers"
but not the insights of whole system observers. Why? |
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All the signs from
our environment are "sharp turn ahead" but our culture says
"race ahead ever faster"... is THAT all in our heads too?? |
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The PROBLEM, is we just have not tried enough wild schemes to
get unsustainable growth to continue! That's all it is! |
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I liked a YouTube
video -- Ra Ra Riot - Can You Tell (A Cappella)http://youtu.be/lH91YsaBkVI?a |
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nice art, both kinds! ;-) (YouTube http://youtu.be/lH91YsaBkVI?a) |
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@TEEB4ME But... "invest 2% GDP" still also
multiplies the main problem, ever increasing addiction to depleting resources
of all kinds! |
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If nature isn't
responding to us, and both government and business misunderstand, do
"the people" need to tell her what to do instead? |
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Do "facts that
don't fit" have their own drawer in your mind? Or does it only prevent
clutter to quickly erase them? |
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The debate over who
should take charge over nature, the "government" or
"business", seems to be wasting our time.. |
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Where "the
facts are easy but the memes are hard" is *exactly* where to look for
the new questions and new paths we need to understand. |
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why we don't accept that efficiency always multiplied consumption? ...
the facts are easy and the memes are hard |
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Was it
constitutional for an abdicating president of Egypt to dismiss the
constitution, and give the country to the military?? Sounds odd. |
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Well, if #Egypt was worried about it's tourist business..., They
have no worries now! What a great place to visit it's now become. |
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#Egypt, "putting something on
paper" need not be much, just a wonderfully clear statement of the path
and goal and commitment |
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#Egypt needs to put
something on paper!! Just love and solidarity in the streets... is nothing to
build on, and not sustainable. |
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More delay in Egypt
getting back to life as usual... You'd think the business community would
explain.. free markets need
free people. |
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#Grist - who's keeping
their heads??http://www.grist.org/article/2011-02-09-smackdown-climate-science-vs-climate-economics#c745923 |
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Egypt |
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Why does the
"roadmap" for Egypt have no destination but silencing the
protest...? |
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Egypt is planning on
killing its people to save it's dictator's honor... Grand purpose... bu will it work? No, of course not. |
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I liked a YouTube
video -- The Life and Times of Louis I. Kahn 2007http://youtu.be/SHB0SSj-1k4?a |
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what most people seem to learn from thinking is that observation is
unimportant... |
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"A New Year’s
wish, the true celebration" - last 7 tweets fromhttp://synapse9.com/signals/2010/12/30/a-new-years-wish-the-true-celebration/ |
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It's asking too
much, to expect what you can ask the world to do for you to multiply without
end, denying your connection to life. |
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It's real simple,
nature's energy budget just doesn't allow for one system to take for itself
ever more of the energy needed by others. |
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Cultural reasoning
is not like science, picking the answers it likes, ignoring the rest, rather
than looking for questions with answers. |
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the IPCC then pointed out we won't even have an planet we'd recognize as
earth to return to, if we don't respond, ignored all but entirely. |
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Keynes pointed out
that when natural limits come money has to stop multiplying too, Meadows to
how it's happening and very dangerous |
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Malthus pointed out
that with unlimited demand the food runs out, and Jevons that being efficient
makes that happen sooner. |
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Seeing the worth of
money as tokens, denies how it connects you to life, each as one equal share
of all you can ask the world to do for you. |
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ain't it the shits... to live up to someone
else's ideals and find out they didn't give a shit?? |
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I liked a YouTube
video -- White Noise http://youtu.be/8hI5Rs-VXQE?a |
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What #wandering #minds need to know... (we're ALL kind of "out of the loop")
www.synapse9.com/issues/WanderingMinds.htm |
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could the internet be destroying #knowledge... not converging toward anything
but becoming turbulence to destroy every direction? |
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The #GHG #trend... improving efficiency *HAS NO
EFFECT* on reducing share of fossil fuel use www.synapse9.com/signals/2010/12/04/dollarshadow/ |
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The most accurate
available measure of anything's #global #impacts is its share of #GDP as a share of the
world's total, #dollarshadow.htm |
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#CharlieRangle I don't think it reflects on you Charlie, but panicky people grasping
for straws. Don't be bitter, they need your help! |
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@Revkin Why have plans to stop #climate change paid for by
continually growing energy use, with growing impacts to be all #unsustainable? |
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100% #renewable?http://www.climatespectator.com.au/commentary/renewable-energy-baseload-power-David-Mills-solar-wind |
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For Thanksgiving, a
little tale of surprising bounty that changes meaning every yearhttp://www.synapse9.com/issues/PeakZucchini.pdf :-) |
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@revkin Who "owns" the resulting CO2 is THE PURCHASER of the service
it provided... That's the physics, the economics
might as well follow. |
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But why???... are we
still nearly all reducing only the rate of accelerating increases in our
impacts, and just calling it #"efficient"?? |
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The Capital Institute, seems significantly different, clear as the
greens but going further on the risk of not preserving natural capital. |
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what they once
called the "widow's cruse" turns out instead to be a a "youthful world's #challenge", not at ALL the end |
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If you owe someone #money, then they owe it to you to put it back
into the world you got if from, a delightful real
law of balance! |
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Isn't it #rude, when so many trusted voices of the
past decide to become just voices of the past, and you have to move on? |
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Sounds good Leland,
good to talk. (YouTubehttp://youtu.be/L1bWNgJnjuQ?a) |
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People are getting
it! search [site:synapse9.com] my great old writings are coming up |
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"Models
Learning Change" now in Cosmos & History - Natural science for
adaptive modeling, for #growth & #changehttp://synapse9.com/signals/ |
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@sky_pointer @Revkin It's to preserve positive net earnings that investors would spend
them, to not drive net earnings toward zero, as now. |
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What if I were in
power, what would I change?http://synapse9.com/signals/2010/11/12/what-if-i-were-in-power-what-would-i-change/ |
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But how do we reduce
our economic footprint?http://synapse9.com/signals/2010/11/12/but-how-do-we-reduce-our-economic-footprint/ |
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The Story of
"Missing Stuff"http://synapse9.com/signals/2010/11/12/the-story-of-the-missing-stuff/ |
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So... why in the
WORLD do world thinkers fail to menTion the small discrepan... (YouTube http://youtu.be/Zam9DZ43Cl0?a) |
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You can't just tape
up the holes to keep the #bubble's from #bursting(it's
essential to turn down the pumps working to #inflate them too). |
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#Formulas tell of pushes and
pulls on fixed #connections, but #nature the stories of
fitting opposite shapes and chances of new connection. |
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I joined FOUR YEARS.
GO. #4YG. I will pay close attention to how my
money keeps churning my whole world. http://...http://rpx.me/wLU |
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Directions of
progress, without a real objective, are plans to push the limits and be
stopped by only failing to respond to things ignored. |
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Or..What
say we... learn to control ever more #complicatedsystems and then give them ever less thoughtful people???
<:-o <:-o |
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What say we... learn
to control ever more #complicated systems and then
give them ever less thought? <:-o |
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Talk of achieving
"Singularity" begs one ask Which one? ..reducing
thought to singularities or our control of nature, or is that the same? |
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You can't keep a #growth system that doesn't
work as a whole, so even if enticing, #money that promises to
ever multiply won't be kept. |
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To #economists, resource
substitution is defined as free, as if hunter-gatherers still using cut &
run as our theory of #nature! |
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@drgrist #"kicking ass" gets harder if the real fault is with our
love of productivity, having ever greater impacts with ever less effort. |
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We know the appeal
of how machine-like nature is, but we seem caught quite off guard not having taken
interest in how very lively too. |
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I guess if we're
running out of cheap stuff, we'll need to get our stuff elsewhere, if there
still is some place "elsewhere" |
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Maximum growth &
profit go to those who skim and run, so IBG-YBG has been our world economic policy
forever. Hunter-gatherers started it! |
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#CO2 allowance = ~5
years. Cheap #oil supply = ~ 5 to 10
years. Plan to #grow as fast as possible
to keep economy stable forever. What????? |
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Our natural (mental) #limits destabilized our economy,
letting us choose faster resource depletion to stabilize #growth, in the 1950's. |
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I makes us seem like
blind #slaves to ideology to not
question "be fruitful and multiply" even when it's clearly no
longer #fruitful. |
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Obama asks why BP
didn't think through the #consequences of feeding an #economy that must always multiply
it's consumption to remain stable! |
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Everyone knows
physical systems all have breaking points, right? (and
theories often don't)... but if #theory is our reality, what
then? |
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@drgrist "Interesting Obama never mentioned...climate" or that growth
requires ever more use of cheapest energy, oil till it runs out too! |
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BEST invention ever,
my solar powered bank account recharger, just put it on your window sill and
watch your money multiply, *guaranteed*! |
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what makes things "blow up" seems, to
often be the wall you erect to "keep things from blowing up", that
would otherwise "blow over". |
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Given the growing
conflicts, business can't make a profit without taking short cuts, so the
have to ever more to just stay in business. |
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@STWR_ spending a trillion, seeming to be mostly for retribution, really shows
just how cheap we really are! |
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Does it escape our
attention?... that solutions making things more #complex, makes them easier to misunderstand
and harder to change? |
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What about the
spectrum of growing #risks of #growth that are completely natural, and NOT caused by human error?? |
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The #obligation to help people, who make such a big show of being #helpless, stops where it does more harm, or
just isn't fun. |
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Solutions that
multiply, and hide ever more unrecognized risks, ..are,
well "perfect", giving you nothing at all to worry about. |
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BP #unprepared? Simple #economics limits preparation for ever wider harm of ever bigger things going
wrong, a natural limit of #growth. |
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What you say makes
sense to you but none to me... so we both mush be! |
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What's #real or #imagined isn't possible to
tell, except from the gaps in what you think that keep sending you back to
the source. |
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Pink Floyd walks
into a bar saying "I don't need no thought control", the bartender
says "I'll buy that!", so now they're both fat cats! |
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Why can't nature
just leave our perfect theories alone!! ... always
mucking things up by changing the world around them! |
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is there ANYTHING different between alternating and escalating effects
other than the good intentions that may or not be behind them?? |
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Sustainability is
generally measured as if the head on a beer, the less head the less beer...
right? See it clear from a distance, no prob! |
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long vigorous and resilient, reached an unprecedented peak and then
literally collapsed... |
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we regulate economies like a #casino, for players guaranteed to win their
bets and encouraged to pile their winnings on their bets... Smart! |
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Can't change the
past?? Isn't the future just one revisionist history after another,
constantly changing the meaning of the past? #change |
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So, how did we get
here, unable to tell if there are any independent realities, or just
culturally preferred ones? What's that for? |
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Risk of a further
physical system collapse. #growth #criseswww.synapse9.com/signals |
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Is DNA a cell's
molecular "software" or is it the "memory"?? Isn't the #LIFE of the cell what
reads DNA as what worked before, and adapts? |
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@Revkin 'Strong reason to believe' terrorists plotting U.S. strike?? ..Or is
it that from our #growth being a growing
attack on nature? |
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I think Venter's
"big discovery" is risky, but not so. Evolution works ONLY by addition,
and so would not have a logic for us to screw up. |
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In a time of change,
to find the smell of what will work next, smell the new roses too. |
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If the earth were a
social system then nature would listen to government policy too! #growth |
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If the earth were a social
system cheer leading for sustainability helps, and stimulating growth to call
it constraint positive too. #growth |
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Complexity - What is
it? It's what nature does so very simply we can't fathom it, usually lots of
disconnected parts acting as a whole. |
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Evidently streamlining growth to work better, accelerates both its resource uses and impacts, and is what technology always did.#growth |
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You know there's a physical
world, 'cause any time you like you can step right on it! |
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Yep, "smart", but
just not paying attention. @ninacaplan That's the Malthusian
argument, isn't it... |
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@shoudaknown |
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If you increase your steps
by ever bigger steps, you get to ... overstepping! Wow, who'd a thunk it? |
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growth = steadily larger
problems ending in ever fewer resources to solve them with. |
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maturation = steadily
smaller problems and steady resources for solving them. |
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